Veyron SuperSport test by Autocar - Blimey
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I've just looked at the Autocar website (prompted by another thread) and read through the review of the Veyron SuperSport feature.
Now I know that people on here have harped on about a number of things they maybe don't like about the Veyron in general e.g weight, looks, cornering blah blah but ignoring all that for now I must admit to being really shocked at the acceleration figures Autocar have just recorded.
I've seen a number of figures quoted for this car, mainly top speed etc but its the 0-100 that they have stated that has just boggled my mind............
0-100 in 4.94 seconds
Irrespective of how thats been achieved, that figure really is seriously crazy for what is understood to be a fairly easy to drive road car. Just stopping to think about it compared to other "fast" cars really does put it into perspective.
There's been a number of cars throughout history that have pushed the boundaries and people have said at the time "no one will build anything like this for a long time" and again the same has been said about the SS. Makes you really wonder whether much could go faster in the future or even whether you'd want it to.....
...either way as a petrol head i'm certainly glad it exists
Review - http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/RoadTestsHisto...
Vid - http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/bugatti-veyron-...
Now I know that people on here have harped on about a number of things they maybe don't like about the Veyron in general e.g weight, looks, cornering blah blah but ignoring all that for now I must admit to being really shocked at the acceleration figures Autocar have just recorded.
I've seen a number of figures quoted for this car, mainly top speed etc but its the 0-100 that they have stated that has just boggled my mind............
0-100 in 4.94 seconds
Irrespective of how thats been achieved, that figure really is seriously crazy for what is understood to be a fairly easy to drive road car. Just stopping to think about it compared to other "fast" cars really does put it into perspective.
There's been a number of cars throughout history that have pushed the boundaries and people have said at the time "no one will build anything like this for a long time" and again the same has been said about the SS. Makes you really wonder whether much could go faster in the future or even whether you'd want it to.....
...either way as a petrol head i'm certainly glad it exists
Review - http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/RoadTestsHisto...
Vid - http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-video/bugatti-veyron-...
Massively impressive figure indeed but for me its the fact that Bugatti apparently tested the launch control around 100 times in succession without a problem which is the really impressive feat.
Use launch control in cars like an Enzo 3 of 4 times in a row and it will need a new clutch.
Use launch control in cars like an Enzo 3 of 4 times in a row and it will need a new clutch.
Holy christ. That's just insanely rapid.
trickywoo said:
It even compares favourably with fast bikes 
Edited to add the quarter mile at 10.1 seconds isn't too bad either.
What really blows my mind is you hear of street driven 8 second Supras, Skylines, Vipers or whatever when you realise that the Veyron SS 'only' does it in 10.1, it shows just how ridiculous street 8 second cars are (I guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmNy-ajRV0U shows pretty ridiculous, but this puts it into context).Edited to add the quarter mile at 10.1 seconds isn't too bad either.
Speed_Demon said:
What really blows my mind is you hear of street driven 8 second Supras, Skylines, Vipers or whatever when you realise that the Veyron SS 'only' does it in 10.1, it shows just how ridiculous street 8 second cars are (I guess http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmNy-ajRV0U shows pretty ridiculous, but this puts it into context)/
I thought someone might bring up these crazy tuned jap cars. Yes indeed they are fast cars but when they say "8 second car" I bet thats when they are prepped for the drag strip. I expect with road legal tyres, launched on concrete (like the SS by Autocar) they will not post 8 second times.Then there's reliability and drivability for the average person which the SS seems to have pulled off.....
trickywoo said:
It even compares favourably with fast bikes
Edited to add the quarter mile at 10.1 seconds isn't too bad either.
Looking at the times for the S1000RR, with a good rider onboard, that will do the quarter in a similar time, but takes around 5.5 seconds to get to 100, therefore it must start reeling the Bugatti in towards the end of the run.Edited to add the quarter mile at 10.1 seconds isn't too bad either.
Davey S2 said:
Massively impressive figure indeed but for me its the fact that Bugatti apparently tested the launch control around 100 times in succession without a problem which is the really impressive feat.
If that's true then as you say it's hugely impressive.I guess the only car that might come close to all round sillyness could be future McLaren hypercar but who knows what their aim will be and if it will include top speed or even 0-100.
LukeSi said:
Blimey. Shows the purpose of the veyron well. It isn't just being the fastest. It is feeling like you are in luxury at the same time. Show me any other car that can get close to its speed that is also like sitting in a Bentley.
Erm have you tried sitting in a veyron, because I certainly can't fit in one. Bentley is luxury, Veyron is a cramped space that happens to be covered in leather.
Makes me wonder in all honesty why it is so heavy. I'm sure there are good reasons obviously. I wonder though if it is really necessary and if not what a stripped out, say f40 style one would be like number wise?
A very impressive bit of kit and I was lucky enough to see one of the prototypes on test a while back. Was lovely and compared to ours, lashed up in tape and covered in rubbish, very, well, can't really think of the word.
Thing that gets me is everybody saying this is it, will never be bettered etc. I remember exactly the same comments about the F1 so goodness knows what will be next ( I'm not saying a bug is better than an F1 I'm undecided having never driven either of course)
A very impressive bit of kit and I was lucky enough to see one of the prototypes on test a while back. Was lovely and compared to ours, lashed up in tape and covered in rubbish, very, well, can't really think of the word.
Thing that gets me is everybody saying this is it, will never be bettered etc. I remember exactly the same comments about the F1 so goodness knows what will be next ( I'm not saying a bug is better than an F1 I'm undecided having never driven either of course)
Overtaking won't be an issue then.NotNormal said:
I thought someone might bring up these crazy tuned jap cars. Yes indeed they are fast cars but when they say "8 second car" I bet thats when they are prepped for the drag strip. I expect with road legal tyres, launched on concrete (like the SS by Autocar) they will not post 8 second times.
Then there's reliability and drivability for the average person which the SS seems to have pulled off.....
Don't get me wrong, I know the Veyron is going to be infinitely more drivable (should be considering the 5+million building price Then there's reliability and drivability for the average person which the SS seems to have pulled off.....
), I just wonder about the acceleration figures of such cars.It goes to show when money really is no object with loads of R+D time, it can produce amazing results for an everyday car. As I said, money no object its got the quality and reliability to match.
Don't forget the Ultima GTR 720 that was timed at 0-100mph in 5.3secs, and 1/4mile (at Santapod) in 9.9secs for a fraction of the SS cost.
On subject of 8sec cars, they require constant checking and rebuilding, use race fuels, and alot struggle with corners, road legal yes but more like short stint drag cars with plates. Hardly fair to compare.
Don't forget the Ultima GTR 720 that was timed at 0-100mph in 5.3secs, and 1/4mile (at Santapod) in 9.9secs for a fraction of the SS cost.
On subject of 8sec cars, they require constant checking and rebuilding, use race fuels, and alot struggle with corners, road legal yes but more like short stint drag cars with plates. Hardly fair to compare.
mini me said:
Makes me wonder in all honesty why it is so heavy. I'm sure there are good reasons obviously. I wonder though if it is really necessary and if not what a stripped out, say f40 style one would be like number wise?
It's got, IIRC, 10 radiators - something like that. To produce so much power, you must produce a lot of heat, which has got to be controlled. The 4WD adds weight as well.The starting point for the programme was the Vmax target. If you're going to have a car in which 2 people can sit side-by-side, it's got to be X wide and Y high. That's going to dictate the frontal area, and you can only make a usable car so slippery. Thus a CdA is sort-of fixed.
For a given CdA, Vmax requires a known amount of power. Power requires cooling (and cooling tends to increase drag, which increases CdA, which raises the power output needed to achieve a given Vmax, which requires more cooling...).
If they had wanted to make just a car with super acceleration up to 100, or 150, the car could have been much lighter. The last 25 mph entailed a lot of extra weight.
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