4.2 crank issues
4.2 crank issues
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pancholi

Original Poster:

255 posts

186 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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noticed from buying guides to be careful with 4.2 AJP crank issues.
can this issue occur at any time or do they normally manifest themselfs early on in the cars life..
any tell tale signs if it were about to go?
looking at a 1997 35,000 mile car.
cheers

itiejim

1,822 posts

234 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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I think you'd have to be unlucky for a crank to go now - but we did have a couple go last year from regulars on here...

A later 4.2 or a 4.5 removes that element of doubt. - If a crank does go you'll have blown a couple of years running costs @£3k PA laugh

pancholi

Original Poster:

255 posts

186 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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that exactly it..
its all about risk managment..
after looking/listening to cerbera threads on youtube..WOW
does the 4.2 make the same poping/backfire noise as 4.5? or do they all sound similer?

jammy_basturd

29,778 posts

241 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Yes, the 4.2 makes the same popping noises on over run. The 4.2s also have cams which make lots of top end noises, leads to them being known as 'clatter cams'. They also have a more aggressive profile, you can really feel the acceleration kick in at about 2.5-3k rpm, where as on the 4.5 and S6 the acceleration is a bit smoother.

Boatbuoy

1,975 posts

191 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Stop faffing around man, buy the damn thing!

Seriously though, I'm a recently new owner (since November) and went through all the anxiety that you are currently demonstrating. You can spend loads of time looking through these threads, asking questions and flicking through the classifieds. That's is all very helpful, but I found the best thing to do was to actually get out there and look at as many cars as possible. I looked at three for sale cars and was also lucky enough to spend time around fellow PH members cars before going to look at the one that I bought. You can learn a lot from people talking, but you can learn a shed load more from being around the cars in person.

Is there a TVR Car Club meet anywhere near you? If so go along and talk to owners and look at their cars. I ended up buying a very good car (compared to the other 2 I looked at) and it fitted my budget, and I think that's basically because I had a benchmark to work to. Ok, so there's been a few things that have come to light since November, but if you're mechanically minded and don't mind getting your hands dirty and knuckles grazed they can be dealt with without breaking the bank.

I ended up narrowing down my list of (major) concerns to the following:
1) A safe chassis - mine isn't concors, but it's better than a lot I've seen!
2) Engine/drivetrain - good service history rather than low milage (mine's at 51K).
3) Dry Interior - my car has to live outside, and I didn't want the wet dog smell!

Of course look for the other normal issues such as electrics, bodywork, fluid leaks, etc... but if you worry about everything you'll never buy one. Plus, you'd be surprised how helpful the TVR community is, there's always someone around to help you out.

I'm glad I made the jump, it's a beast of a car and is worth the 'smiles per mile' alone. Good luck.

Regards,
Olly

Edited by Boatbuoy on Saturday 5th March 23:39

spongy

2,236 posts

190 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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As above,not one car out there that will be 100%.all will need jobs and yes you will worry about these horror stories,but then to be honest all performance cars have issues let alone a supercar.Mine has come from a loved home but has issues,but its part of buying a tvr you will love it to bits trust me.Your only here once bud enjoy it best you can,and as said above the brotherhood on here is secound to none.Im not rich by any means i work hard and want value for money as do we all and for me a cerb is as good as a car can get in many respects

Good luck
Toni;)

pancholi

Original Poster:

255 posts

186 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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i am soo tempted, and you are all egging me on...
jump, jump, jump.........


by looking through the treads on pistonheads, there is ample info and always a helping hand.....some comfort there..
i am viewing one tommorrow and another one later in the week.
thanks all

spongy

2,236 posts

190 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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Good luck bud and enjoy once you have onebiggrin

medieval

1,499 posts

240 months

Monday 7th March 2011
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When I bought mine ,I was told the following for earlier 4.2s
Chassis - outriggers and even main chassis spine under the engine bay area check for corrosion as these areas are prone.
Clutch - earlier cars have some issues burning out clutches and from memory I think the earlier bell housings are different and would require updating now to fit replacement clutches - check invoices to see if a replacement has been done in its history.
Starter motors - some seem to eat through them - again check history
Crank - earlier 4.2s appear to have some potential for snapping but if I recall correctly these were addresed later in 97 and less of an issue. Higher mileage would possibly suggest all is OK.
A good used car will probably have suffered all of those issues and have been replaced/repaired as necessary.

Fantastic cars and I wish I had kept mine - you will always have some doubts but that is part of the excitement of Cerbera ownership. Good luck

Steve_T

6,356 posts

301 months

Monday 7th March 2011
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There was a casting change for the 4.2 crank which iirc alleviated the problem with cranks snapping. This has been covered before, but unfortunately you've no way of knowing with an early 4.2 engine whether it will go on indefinitely as some do, or fail soon into your ownership of the car.