Guitar amp software-what preamp are you using?

[Driller]

Anybody using this kind of software? I have a friend who played me some stuff using a Line6 preamp and corresponding Line6 software. I've always hated the Line6 sound but this sounded pretty cool.

I bought the Revalver demo which doesn't seem too bad but am after a simple 1U DI/preamp to put the guitar through. It has to have a line level out as my ADDA is dedicated and doesn't have pre's.

The Tech21/Sansamp stuff doesn't seem too bad (eg Sansamp RPM) considering it's just to convert the impedance of the guitar pickups and boost the signal a bit.

Any ideas?

[Greenwich Ross]

Not software but I use a Pod XT when i'm doing demos. Easy enough to run into a PC.

[Driller]

Greenwich Ross said:

Not software but I use a Pod XT when i'm doing demos. Easy enough to run into a PC.

Thanks for the tip, can you get those in a 1U rack unit?

[Driller]

BTW if anyone's listening, this is for composing only, the requisite tube amp/sm57 is used for tracking.

[Bullett]

Nothing wrong with using this type of software for recording. It keeps getting better and better.

I use the Behringer V-Amp (Bass version on my case) for live works as it's flexible and means I can get the sound I want when gigging on shared gear.

IK Amplitude is a also a good piece of software.

Plenty of free plugins available as well try kvraudio.com for downloads.

[davepoth]

Driller said:

BTW if anyone's listening, this is for composing only, the requisite tube amp/sm57 is used for tracking.

I was beginning to get upset.

I bought one of these:

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&amp...

Which is OK for the money.

[SiRL]

I've always found the Waves guitar software pack to be really easy to use and works well, even when I put a synth thru it! native Instruments GT4 is clever but seems to be too techy.

Simon

[Driller]

Bullett said:

I use the Behringer V-Amp (Bass version on my case) for live works as it's flexible and means I can get the sound I want when gigging on shared gear.

IK Amplitude is a also a good piece of software.

Plenty of free plugins available as well try kvraudio.com for downloads.

Well I'm a bit of a purist and I don't think it's quite there yet for recording. Maybe the cean sounds but not the overdriven rock/metal stuff.

Sorry sounds a bit snobby but I have Behringer-itis and just can't bring myself to buy any of their stuff, one of the few times that the branding war has an effect on me.

I've heard great things about Amplitube III and will definitely check it out.

davepoth said:

I was beginning to get upset.

I knew you (and others) would, that's why I mentioned it

davepoth said:

I bought one of these:

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&amp...

Which is OK for the money.

That looks handy, pity it's Berhinger again (sorry )

I found this by SPL which is probably overkill for an instrument preamp:

http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/spl-track-on...

Makes the Sansamp RPM look very reasonable.

SiRL said:

I've always found the Waves guitar software pack to be really easy to use and works well, even when I put a synth thru it! native Instruments GT4 is clever but seems to be too techy.

Simon

With Waves's reputation for quality I imagine that's pretty good. Didn't know they did guitar stuff, cheers.

Edited by Driller on Tuesday 8th March 17:04

[Bullett]

It's never going to be as good as the real thing of course but unless you are Eric Clapton etc you are unlikely to have access to many more than one amp/speaker/mic combo. Then of course you need to be able to run it at a suitable volume and have the space to position the mics to record what you want and the studio and understanding neighbours and family to record in the house.

[davepoth]

Driller said:

davepoth said:

I was beginning to get upset.

I knew you (and others) would, that's why I mentioned it

davepoth said:

I bought one of these:

http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&amp...

Which is OK for the money.

That looks handy, pity it's Berhinger again (sorry )

I found this by SPL which is probably overkill for an instrument preamp:

http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/spl-track-on...

Makes the Sansamp RPM look very reasonable.

Edited by Driller on Tuesday 8th March 17:04

I figured that it was barely above the price of a pre-amp valve anyway, and I think it was the same tube as in my amp, so even if it was the worst heap of crap in history it wasn't a big loss. But it does the job of upping the level of the signal perfectly well, and it has a valve in it.

[gbbird]

I tend to disagree with an earlier post that guitar software is not good for heavy/thrash metal stuff. Listening to a lot of such professional recordings, it is clearly used rather abundantly in the industry.

I play and record a lot of heavy music, initially by using a Marshall DSL 401 mik'ed up, but more recently using Guitar Rig, with a simple CME Matrix Pre Amp into the soundcard. I have never been a big effects man, just give me a lovely distortion turned up to 11 and i am happy.

The results (only a rough mix and not mastered) of the Guitar Rig effort can be heard here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktcxw24nngU

It is much easier and less of a faff too, as one does not get the sound of the phone ringing or the other half moaning that you are ignoring her

g

[Greenwich Ross]

Driller said:

Greenwich Ross said:

Not software but I use a Pod XT when i'm doing demos. Easy enough to run into a PC.

Thanks for the tip, can you get those in a 1U rack unit?

There's a Pro version (http://line6.com/podxtpro/) which goes into a rack but I don't know anything about racks, i'm afraid.

[Driller]

gbbird said:

I tend to disagree with an earlier post that guitar software is not good for heavy/thrash metal stuff. Listening to a lot of such professional recordings, it is clearly used rather abundantly in the industry.

I play and record a lot of heavy music, initially by using a Marshall DSL 401 mik'ed up, but more recently using Guitar Rig, with a simple CME Matrix Pre Amp into the soundcard. I have never been a big effects man, just give me a lovely distortion turned up to 11 and i am happy.

The results (only a rough mix and not mastered) of the Guitar Rig effort can be heard here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktcxw24nngU

It is much easier and less of a faff too, as one does not get the sound of the phone ringing or the other half moaning that you are ignoring her

g

Nice example of the genre that, good stuff

Mmmm, do they use software in the industry? I'd have to disagree there, at least for the more pro stuff. I believe that you still can't do better than a dual rectifier (for example) with a dynamic mic shoved down its throat and this layered a few times. I'm pretty sure this is how all the big name engineerrs do it.

I'm no pro but although I find your recording very good I can detect that certain "buzzyness" in the overdrive that you don't get with the traditional method.

Greenwich Ross said:

There's a Pro version (http://line6.com/podxtpro/) which goes into a rack but I don't know anything about racks, i'm afraid.

Yeah, that must be the unit the guy I mentioned before used with the POD Farm software.

[gbbird]

Driller said:

gbbird said:

I tend to disagree with an earlier post that guitar software is not good for heavy/thrash metal stuff. Listening to a lot of such professional recordings, it is clearly used rather abundantly in the industry.

I play and record a lot of heavy music, initially by using a Marshall DSL 401 mik'ed up, but more recently using Guitar Rig, with a simple CME Matrix Pre Amp into the soundcard. I have never been a big effects man, just give me a lovely distortion turned up to 11 and i am happy.

The results (only a rough mix and not mastered) of the Guitar Rig effort can be heard here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktcxw24nngU

It is much easier and less of a faff too, as one does not get the sound of the phone ringing or the other half moaning that you are ignoring her

g

Nice example of the genre that, good stuff

Mmmm, do they use software in the industry? I'd have to disagree there, at least for the more pro stuff. I believe that you still can't do better than a dual rectifier (for example) with a dynamic mic shoved down its throat and this layered a few times. I'm pretty sure this is how all the big name engineerrs do it.

I'm no pro but although I find your recording very good I can detect that certain "buzzyness" in the overdrive that you don't get with the traditional method.

Greenwich Ross said:

There's a Pro version (http://line6.com/podxtpro/) which goes into a rack but I don't know anything about racks, i'm afraid.

Yeah, that must be the unit the guy I mentioned before used with the POD Farm software.

Glad you like it Driller, thought it might be your cup of tea I guess you are right, you can never really beat the real thing, and if ever i had the absolute choice and lovely proper rig with the right distortion would be my number one chouice.

Maybe its onlt the very finely tuned ears among us who can tell thE difference, butI do think some metal bands use effects at the recording stage. Some stuff sounds so well (over??) produced and polished nowadays, almost clinical; thats why i suspect this.