Newbie Tuscan purchase advice
Newbie Tuscan purchase advice
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Ec21kb

Original Poster:

14 posts

181 months

Monday 7th March 2011
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Hi, if possible I'm looking for a bit of advice about a planned Tuscan purchase. I have limited experience when it comes to what to look for and associated costs so I was just wondering if anyone could advise me on whether the following classified ad is a good deal and if not, what would be a good price to pay for a Tuscan like this (age, mileage etc)? The car is in perfect condition and will be fully serviced before payment. Thanks for any advice you can give me.

Cheers

www.pistonheads.com/sales/2484403.htm

Smooth Smith

542 posts

188 months

Monday 7th March 2011
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That Tuscan looks stunning in that colour with the dark wheels.

As it's at a dealer, you will be paying a premium for the fact that it will have been well prepped & that there's a 12 month warranty included. Obviously if it was a private sale, you would be paying less.

I would check the service history to see what work has been carried out previously. I note that the car is on 25k. Check whether it has had a replacement clutch as they tend to last around 20-25k. Also check whether or not the car is on the standard shocks or whether these have been upgraded.

It might be a good idea to read through past threads on here & to read the S6 forum. I take it that the engine has not had a rebuild & therefore I would ask if their warranty covers this in the event of engine failure. Racing Green are well respected TVR specialists & therefore they should have sorted anything that needed doing.

Have fun if you decide to take the plunge!

Arapo

253 posts

203 months

Monday 7th March 2011
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If it has not had a rebuild & new clutch, I think its a bit expensive..
Try to find out more about the history.


By the way, I love the description: Electric Windows, Electric Door Mirrors, Removable Roof and Rear Screen, Alarm and Immobiliser, Remote Central Locking... I bet it is also a 2 seater....!!! :-)


blueg33

45,304 posts

248 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Arapo said:
If it has not had a rebuild & new clutch, I think its a bit expensive..
Try to find out more about the history.


By the way, I love the description: Electric Windows, Electric Door Mirrors, Removable Roof and Rear Screen, Alarm and Immobiliser, Remote Central Locking... I bet it is also a 2 seater....!!! :-)
They are 4 seaters! I regularly see on ebay "TVR Tuscan Floor Mat Set" with mats for front and rear footwells. You can also get waterproof seat covers for all 4 seats jester

Arapo

253 posts

203 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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blueg33 said:
They are 4 seaters! I regularly see on ebay "TVR Tuscan Floor Mat Set" with mats for front and rear footwells. You can also get waterproof seat covers for all 4 seats jester
Well, I stand corrected!!!

cuzzaluva

103 posts

252 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Obvious but expect to pay more through trade.
Saying that yesterday i saw a 2004 via trade on autotrader for £15,500.
Good idea to check clutch replacement.
Taking that into account it looks good, try and get a guarantee from Racing Green.
And if your not sure get an independent technician to look it over.

Good luck and let us know what happens!

Ec21kb

Original Poster:

14 posts

181 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Thanks for the advice. It's not had an engine rebuild or a clutch replacement but they are carrying out a full service now to fix any little issues. The engine will also be under warranty for a year which will cover anything that I didn't do to it through neglect.

I realise something is only gonna be worth what someone wants to pay for it and if I'm happy paying that amount I should just go for it, I just don't want to be seriously ripped off without asking a few people who know about it first.

Still have a few things to consider first though as although the colour looks sweet, I think I'd prefer a gloss black one, noticed one was on sale here last week that looked perfect but unfortunately sold straight away. If anyone has a black tuscan (preferably s) that they're looking to sell on just give me a shout.

m3coupe

1,126 posts

228 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Engine rebuild can be hit and miss, depends how it's been treated/warmed up. It's a early engine though meaning there is more chance of a problem arising however if it's done 25,000 miles already, reasonable chance it's ok unless the servicing has been poor and missed any problems.

I would say clutch is on borrowed time, mine went at 20,000, so factor the cost of replacement, (£700 -£1000) before putting in any offer as even with a check up, it won't be picked up.

Looks nice but i'd be looking to pay a bit less but that's just me.

blueg33

45,304 posts

248 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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I think its a lovely looking car, but personally I wouldnt pay that price without a rebuild unless the Warranty is extended. A Year will pass quickly and then you will always be listening out for odd engine noises and wondering if you have a £6k bill on the way.

Clutch is circa £1000 fitted (i think) and the originals are prone to early failure.

make sure electrics all work (test and test again) heater ecu's can be problematic as can the electronics behind the dash pod.


pete

1,628 posts

308 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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I'm sure I'll be castigated for saying this, but for early S6 engines the rebuild question is "when", not "if". Even if the car has always been treated scrupulously, the shoddy and variable quality materials used in early engine parts mean that a rebuild some time before 60k miles is much more likely than not. Certainly much earlier than for a mass produced engine.

Even worse, an engine failure later in life will probably be in a manner which is easy to describe as wear-and-tear; search the forums for plenty of examples of this being used to deny warranty claims, so make sure there's either no wear and tear exclusion in the warranty (unlikely), or there's a specific note in writing to say that you'll be covered for an engine rebuild due to wear of original components.

Otherwise the car looks lovely, great colour combination. If it has a cast iron warranty on the oily bits it looks like a good buy; if not, it looks a bit expensive. Have a look at what TVR Power charge for an annual engine warranty policy to get an idea of what that's worth.

Pete

cuzzaluva

103 posts

252 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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From my experience, if you're looking for a Black one i'd recommend waiting for a black 1.

You'll regret making any compromises.


NTEL

5,051 posts

264 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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If I was in the market for a MK1 Tuscan I would be buying this one:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2485235.htm

With a 3 year warranty on the engine and only 16000 miles on the car its a bit of a no brainer really. I've seen under this car and its mint throughout.

blueg33

45,304 posts

248 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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NTEL said:
If I was in the market for a MK1 Tuscan I would be buying this one:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2485235.htm

With a 3 year warranty on the engine and only 16000 miles on the car its a bit of a no brainer really. I've seen under this car and its mint throughout.
I had the same thought. Its quite a long way from being black though

Ec21kb

Original Poster:

14 posts

181 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Cheers, more good advice. Talking of black ones...

www.pistonheads.com/sales/2503407.htm

Rebuild with warranty remaining but perhaps clutch could be an issue again... Looks good though ;-)

blueg33

45,304 posts

248 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Ec21kb said:
Cheers, more good advice. Talking of black ones...

www.pistonheads.com/sales/2503407.htm

Rebuild with warranty remaining but perhaps clutch could be an issue again... Looks good though ;-)
Ooh yes a 4.3. Looks tasty

Smooth Smith

542 posts

188 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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blueg33 said:
Ooh yes a 4.3. Looks tasty
Yes please. You should be able to extend the engine warranty too with it being a Power rebuild.

tvrdavid

105 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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The Racing Green Tuscan appears overpriced given the lack of rebuild and clutch - UNLESS the warranty will cover the full cost of a rebuild (this will be 6k+). Most warranties will pay out between £500 and £2000 per claim with some offering multiple separate pay-outs. The TrackVRoad car seems to represent better VFM on the face of it. I bought a Tuscan without a rebuild and would not do this again - you may get lucky but why take the risk!

bobcuth

56 posts

245 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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[quote=NTEL]If I was in the market for a MK1 Tuscan I would be buying this one:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2485235.htm

I hope you are on commission Dave!

Dropped off rear screen for Kevan at TvR for you to pick up. (Tell him to make it last more than just one race!)

Bob

cuzzaluva

103 posts

252 months

Friday 11th March 2011
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Cunning, cropping out the red cushion seats with interior pic laugh

Remove rear spoiler hurl

car crazy

1,796 posts

187 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2473718.htm

That ones nice but is it overpriced because of its TV stardom?