Nissan Primera GT
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DannyVTS

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7,543 posts

190 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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What do we know about these then? A friends dad is trying to shift one fairly cheap and it seems like an awesome car for shed money.



Over to you..

Smike

24,105 posts

225 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Great cars for the money if you need a 4-door/5-door car.

Seeing as you've had a Saxo VTS, I'd really liken it to a big 4/5-door saloon version of one....even down to the seat fabric if you have cloth seats smile

BliarOut

72,863 posts

261 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Check the insurance! personally I thought mine was a bit of a shed considering it was supposed to be a GT.

NiceCupOfTea

25,519 posts

273 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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I looked at them vaguely a while back - very competent car, cheap to buy, cheap to run, and not a bad steer at all by all accounts (didn't get round to driving one). GT variants less likely to be minicabbed I supposed, but I would imagine they wear miles well, so double check MOTs. They have the advantage of being utterly anonymous, especially in resale silver.

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

200 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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It's a Nissan Primera but has a bit of poke ?

Drive it and see what you think, it's from the age when Nissans were reliable biggrin

Personally unless it was too good to pass up price wise (under £500) then I wouldn't be looking at it.

V88Dicky

7,361 posts

205 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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How much is he wanting for that?

Reliable, roomy, good on fuel, chain-driven cams, pre-CO2 bullst tax, well built and not prone to rust as much as some rivals.

scratchchin

DannyVTS

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190 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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I don't know the exact price, but he paid less than £500 for it and hasn't done a lot to it.

It has 130,000 miles, lots of history and receipts, and is apparently spot on. Tempted to go test it out to be honest since he is a trader and would be legally allowed to demonstrate it to me etc..

Alf Alfa

192 posts

214 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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^^ What Dicky said.

I had one before I got the Alfa, I would have another in a shot.

Do you know what spec level it is? LE has a few upgraded items over the normal GT.


DannyVTS

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190 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Alf Alfa said:
^^ What Dicky said.

I had one before I got the Alfa, I would have another in a shot.

Do you know what spec level it is? LE has a few upgraded items over the normal GT.
He said it was the limited edition... But I presumed he meant it was the GT.

What extra's does the LE have?

maniac0796

1,292 posts

188 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Where to start tongue out

Good power from an engine designed in the late 80's/early 90's. Very fuel effecient for it's size, 44mpg is easily obtainable on the motorway at 70. Mix this with a kerb weight of only 1400kg, then it'll accelerate quicker then people give them credit for. Let down by weak gearboxes though, and I thought the gearing was a bit long. Give the engine some TLC and it'll give you long trouble free miles. Keeping oil levels optimum is quite essential, due to the timing chain and hydraulic tensioner.

Style wise, I think the Saloon is the better looking one out of that and the hatch, and I personally don't think they suit silver, but each to their own. The interior is dated, but is dependable 90's japanese. No real electrical niggles. The electric mirrors can stick but some time with a screwdriver and white grease will sort that out.

Handling wise, they're pretty amazing. The original primera was the benchmark for the ford mondeo, and was generally applauded as one of the best FWD handling cars of the time. This is an improvment, with a trick rear axle. Steering is a bit on the light side, but it's still nice. They do have a large turning circle. The ride is quite hard for our roads, but it's a compromise worth paying for.

There's some general bits and bobs that go wrong. Rust on the boot lid is common, they put the spoiler on before they painted it. The kingpins can go on the front suspension. Not a hard job, but the pin sticking in due to rust can make it time consuming. Apart from wear and tear, they are robust cars, and can be maintained on a budget. I know, I did it.

I would say that insurance seems to be priced higher then cars from higher insurance groups. I got quoted £1800 for my renewal, whereas a T5 Volvo 850r was only £1100 to insure confused

Info on the engine:
http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/sr20-the-history_topic...

There's also a good article on the suspension set up somewhere, but I cannai find it.


Edited by maniac0796 on Tuesday 8th March 21:06

Alf Alfa

192 posts

214 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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DannyVTS said:
He said it was the limited edition... But I presumed he meant it was the GT.

What extra's does the LE have?
Not a vast amount as I recall, all round electric windows (rather than front only), full leather (rather than half)... errmmm thats all I can remember now.
Good shout for the NPOC, They know most anything you would want to know and more.

DannyVTS

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

190 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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maniac0796 said:
Where to start tongue out

Good power from an engine designed in the late 80's/early 90's. Very fuel effecient for it's size, 44mpg is easily obtainable on the motorway at 70. Mix this with a kerb weight of only 1400kg, then it'll accelerate quicker then people give them credit for. Let down by weak gearboxes though, and I thought the gearing was a bit long. Give the engine some TLC and it'll give you long trouble free miles. Keeping oil levels optimum is quite essential, due to the timing chain and hydraulic tensioner.

Style wise, I think the Saloon is the better looking one out of that and the hatch, and I personally don't think they suit silver, but each to their own. The interior is dated, but is dependable 90's japanese. No real electrical niggles. The electric mirrors can stick but some time with a screwdriver and white grease will sort that out.

Handling wise, they're pretty amazing. The original primera was the benchmark for the ford mondeo, and was generally applauded as one of the best FWD handling cars of the time. This is an improvment, with a trick rear axle. Steering is a bit on the light side, but it's still nice. They do have a large turning circle. The ride is quite hard for our roads, but it's a compromise worth paying for.

There's some general bits and bobs that go wrong. Rust on the boot lid is common, they put the spoiler on before they painted it. The kingpins can go on the front suspension. Not a hard job, but the pin sticking in due to rust can make it time consuming. Apart from wear and tear, they are robust cars, and can be maintained on a budget. I know, I did it.

I would say that insurance seems to be priced higher then cars from higher insurance groups. I got quoted £1800 for my renewal, whereas a T5 Volvo 850r was only £1100 to insure confused

Info on the engine:
http://www.npoc.co.uk/forum/sr20-the-history_topic...

There's also a good article on the suspension set up somewhere, but I cannai find it.


Edited by maniac0796 on Tuesday 8th March 21:06
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thanks for the write up

Insurance is about a tenner less than my Saxo VTS, which is fine by me smile

Thanks for all the info, if I like what I see when I go have a looksie I'll join the forum for a better grasp of what I would be getting in to...

Danny

LayZ

1,786 posts

264 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Looked into these before, insurance is surprisingly expensive for 150hp.

Lots of other faster metal available for similar money nowadays. You can easily find an E36 328i for this much cash, which is almost a properly fast car.

Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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DannyVTS said:
thanks for the write up

Insurance is about a tenner less than my Saxo VTS, which is fine by me smile

Thanks for all the info, if I like what I see when I go have a looksie I'll join the forum for a better grasp of what I would be getting in to...

Danny
depends which part of yorkshire you live in, but if you live near me there is an image issue.

had a friend with one, and it kept on being keyed. good car though.

oh and another thing, DO NOT trust the mileage at all. 130k will not be 130k. it can have all the receipts and service history in the world, but check very carefully for wear on the car. 130k wear should not be too much. a little on the seats, virtually none on the steering wheel, and little on the gearstick.

if there is no wear on the seats, then very likely it has had new ones put in. it there is too much, then most likely it has been a 300k taxi at some point.
Do you have the list of previous owners?

DannyVTS

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190 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Efbe said:
depends which part of yorkshire you live in, but if you live near me there is an image issue.

had a friend with one, and it kept on being keyed. good car though.

oh and another thing, DO NOT trust the mileage at all. 130k will not be 130k. it can have all the receipts and service history in the world, but check very carefully for wear on the car. 130k wear should not be too much. a little on the seats, virtually none on the steering wheel, and little on the gearstick.

if there is no wear on the seats, then very likely it has had new ones put in. it there is too much, then most likely it has been a 300k taxi at some point.
Do you have the list of previous owners?
I don't have a list of previous owners no, and I wont have a problem with the car being damaged.

I thought 130k would be genuine, perhaps not. I'll check the history and owners.

Can these cars do 300k?

Efbe

9,251 posts

188 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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DannyVTS said:
I don't have a list of previous owners no, and I wont have a problem with the car being damaged.

I thought 130k would be genuine, perhaps not. I'll check the history and owners.

Can these cars do 300k?
most cars can.

its false information that cars die after 100k. truth is most are capable of 300k+.
mine is on 160k (or so i thinksmile ) and is as good as new.

also clocking is far far more common that people think. I wouldn't be surprised if a third of vehicles out there over 5 years old have been clocked. its very common for taxis to get clocked once a year just before servicing, same goes for many rep-mobiles, I know this, because I have spoken to people who do it.
it's probably not such a bad thing either, but that's an argument for another day

Tea Bag

205 posts

182 months

Tuesday 8th March 2011
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Do these have the non turbo version of the sr20, like the almera gti? (You know, the ones that fetch a premium at race wars wink )

rallycross

13,675 posts

259 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Great to drive for what they are, lovely engine that is smooth loves to rev and has decent low down go as well.

I've been using one for motorway runs it averages 35-40 will happily sit at 90. It's good fun on roundabouts and twisty bits.

You'll have to drive it to see what I mean they are far better to drive than you might expect! It's like a big civic type r.

I doubt very much it would have been used as a cab the Gt is quite rare and not really the cab of choice that'd be the 1.6 or diesel models. My one was a one owner it's only done 68k miles with fsh and I wouldn't sell it love the fact it's complety anonymous but quick enough to be fun.

Jayho

2,389 posts

192 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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I got offered one as a swap for my car a while back, went for a test drive and was quite disappointed. But not by the drive, just by the wear of the sample I was looking at. It had done "140k" miles, and just seemed like it had seen better days.

I was impressed by the smooth drive and the pull of the engine. But in general I decided against the swap as I didnt really embrace the car and it didnt really make me go "wow". Could be because I was coming from a lightweight car.

DannyVTS

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7,543 posts

190 months

Wednesday 9th March 2011
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Jayho said:
I got offered one as a swap for my car a while back, went for a test drive and was quite disappointed. But not by the drive, just by the wear of the sample I was looking at. It had done "140k" miles, and just seemed like it had seen better days.

I was impressed by the smooth drive and the pull of the engine. But in general I decided against the swap as I didnt really embrace the car and it didnt really make me go "wow". Could be because I was coming from a lightweight car.
I'll be coming from a car that is about 500kg's ligher.. hehe