Have to sell the Saab - not a buy my car thread
Discussion
Okay due to changes at work I need to sell my 9-3 and get a diesel. Only problem is that I know I will get very little for the Saab (very partial SH - ie the bills for what I've had done and thats about it and it's only the 2.0 non turbo model) which is going to make getting a replacement near impossible.
So advice folks, do I stomach it sell the Saab revert to public transport and hire a car when I need to do distance work, or keep Saab, tell work not to worry about the fuel card that they are giving me (Diesel only) and just take the hit on the increased fuel spend?
Unfortunately finance is not an option and the company won't actually put me fully on the car scheme as it's secondment role that at present is only for 6 months but may go permenant, which if that happens the switch over to the company car scheme would happen.
So advice folks, do I stomach it sell the Saab revert to public transport and hire a car when I need to do distance work, or keep Saab, tell work not to worry about the fuel card that they are giving me (Diesel only) and just take the hit on the increased fuel spend?
Unfortunately finance is not an option and the company won't actually put me fully on the car scheme as it's secondment role that at present is only for 6 months but may go permenant, which if that happens the switch over to the company car scheme would happen.
As above. Did you know the role was 'Diesel car owner/driver essential'.?
I'd be looking for equivilant petrol expenses or them giving you access to a diesel for business miles.
Doesn't seem right that you should have to sell your car and buy/rent a diesel for a post that could be up in 6 months.
I'd be looking for equivilant petrol expenses or them giving you access to a diesel for business miles.
Doesn't seem right that you should have to sell your car and buy/rent a diesel for a post that could be up in 6 months.
edo said:
Fraud. Sackable offence. Not to mention the fuel card normally has a reg on it.
Exactly and to say I want this to go permenant is an understatment as it will come with a rather substantial rise in pay (for the secondment period wage is increased but is a pro rata increase). In an ideal world if I could get close to a grand for the Saab (I know that won't happen though) I'd then pick up either a Golf or Passat Diesel for the time being while secondment runs and then if needed at the end of that sell it on - but as we all know the world is far from ideal.sw4rm said:
As above. Did you know the role was 'Diesel car owner/driver essential'.?
I'd be looking for equivilant petrol expenses or them giving you access to a diesel for business miles.
Doesn't seem right that you should have to sell your car and buy/rent a diesel for a post that could be up in 6 months.
They've literally just changed the policy on the role, as a stop gap my housemate has been able to let me use his Golf while he's been off work but as he goes back on Monday that means my access to a diesel is gone.I'd be looking for equivilant petrol expenses or them giving you access to a diesel for business miles.
Doesn't seem right that you should have to sell your car and buy/rent a diesel for a post that could be up in 6 months.
Are they refusing to pay for petrol, or will they pay receipted petrol expenses / mileage allowances but only provide a fuel card for diesel?
What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
farrendahl said:
They've literally just changed the policy on the role, as a stop gap my housemate has been able to let me use his Golf while he's been off work but as he goes back on Monday that means my access to a diesel is gone.
Could you swap cars and you give him the difference in fuel, since your Saab will cost more on fuel than his Golf? Probably the cheapest way to do it.oldcynic said:
Are they refusing to pay for petrol, or will they pay receipted petrol expenses / mileage allowances but only provide a fuel card for diesel?
What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
It's a case of they will issue a diesel fuel card but not pay out on petrol expenses. The cynic in me say this is a way of gauging how much I want to role i.e how many hoops will I jump through.What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
As for mileage we're looking at 4k per month on average over the next six months -mainly zipping back and forth between the north and south of the country- if the mileage hike wasn't that much I'd say to heck with it and stick with the Saab but even with the pro rata rise I can't take that much of a fuel expenditure increase without cutting back on something else and although I'm quitting the fags at the end of the month that saving is still not going to be enough when you factor in the increased servicing costs as well.
Edited by farrendahl on Thursday 10th March 11:17
oldcynic said:
Are they refusing to pay for petrol, or will they pay receipted petrol expenses / mileage allowances but only provide a fuel card for diesel?
What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
It's a case of they will issue a diesel fuel card but not pay out on petrol expenses. The cynic in me say this is a way of gauging how much I want to role i.e how many hoops will I jump through.What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
As for mileage we're looking at 4k per month on average over the next six months -mainly zipping back and forth between the north and south of the country- if the mileage hike wasn't that much I'd say to heck with it and stick with the Saab but even with the pro rata rise I can't take that much of a fuel expenditure increase without cutting back on something else and although I'm quitting the fags at the end of the month that saving is still not going to be enough when you factor in the increased servicing costs as well.
Edited by farrendahl on Thursday 10th March 11:18
oldcynic said:
Are they refusing to pay for petrol, or will they pay receipted petrol expenses / mileage allowances but only provide a fuel card for diesel?
What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
It's a case of they will issue a diesel fuel card but not pay out on petrol expenses. The cynic in me say this is a way of gauging how much I want to role i.e how many hoops will I jump through.What kind of mileages are we talking?
It would seem odd to specify that you must drive a diesel car to claim expenses. If they pay mileage allowance then you're better off keeping the car and just suffering a different (and not necessarily worse) maintenance cost / fuel cost balance.
As for mileage we're looking at 4k per month on average over the next six months -mainly zipping back and forth between the north and south of the country- if the mileage hike wasn't that much I'd say to heck with it and stick with the Saab but even with the pro rata rise I can't take that much of a fuel expenditure increase without cutting back on something else and although I'm quitting the fags at the end of the month that saving is still not going to be enough when you factor in the increased servicing costs as well.
Edited by farrendahl on Thursday 10th March 11:19
farrendahl said:
It's a case of they will issue a diesel fuel card but not pay out on petrol expenses. The cynic in me say this is a way of gauging how much I want to role i.e how many hoops will I jump through.
As for mileage we're looking at 4k per month on average over the next six months -mainly zipping back and forth between the north and south of the country- if the mileage that much I'd say to heck with it and stick with the Saab but even with the pro rata rise I can't take that much of a fuel expenditure increase without cutting back on something else and although I'm quitting the fags at the end of the month that saving is still not going to be enough when you factor in the increased servicing costs as well.
Sounds like a strange way to do business - they're asking you to drive 24000 miles over 6 months, covering only your fuel costs if you drive a diesel and no expenses at all if you drive a petrol powered car. Most companies would pay anything from about 17p to 40p per mile for business mileage; HMRC accepts 40ppm for the first 10000 miles and 25ppm thereafter annually without a tax liability.As for mileage we're looking at 4k per month on average over the next six months -mainly zipping back and forth between the north and south of the country- if the mileage that much I'd say to heck with it and stick with the Saab but even with the pro rata rise I can't take that much of a fuel expenditure increase without cutting back on something else and although I'm quitting the fags at the end of the month that saving is still not going to be enough when you factor in the increased servicing costs as well.
What controls do they have over the fuel card? It could be a significant tax liability if you did get the card.
Edited to fix mileage
Assuming 30mpg on a motorway for your Saab, and a price of £6 per gallon (as it makes maths easy) the fuel alone will cost you £4,800 for 24k miles, not to mention probably 2 tyres, a couple of services, and god knows how much wear and tear on an older car.
I hope the wages are good if you're prepared to bend over and take that or buy a more expensive car just to do their work.
I hope the wages are good if you're prepared to bend over and take that or buy a more expensive car just to do their work.
boredofmyoldname said:
Assuming 30mpg on a motorway for your Saab, and a price of £6 per gallon (as it makes maths easy) the fuel alone will cost you £4,800 for 24k miles, not to mention probably 2 tyres, a couple of services, and god knows how much wear and tear on an older car.
I hope the wages are good if you're prepared to bend over and take that or buy a more expensive car just to do their work.
The wage increase is substantial (we're talking almost double what I'm on now if it goes perm with a good increase for the secondement time frame) if it hadn't been I wouldn't even be entertaining the idea.I hope the wages are good if you're prepared to bend over and take that or buy a more expensive car just to do their work.
oldcynic said:
ounds like a strange way to do business - they're asking you to drive 24000 miles over 6 months, covering only your fuel costs if you drive a diesel and no expenses at all if you drive a petrol powered car. Most companies would pay anything from about 17p to 40p per mile for business mileage; HMRC accepts 40ppm for the first 10000 miles and 25ppm thereafter annually without a tax liability.
What controls do they have over the fuel card? It could be a significant tax liability if you did get the card.
Edited to fix mileage
Couldn't agree more, have set up a meeting with the lass who will be my line manager to try and come to some arrangement as I don't want to miss out on the role but unless I can come to an arrangement with them and/or get the Saab sold for a decent price and then replaced with a Diesel pretty sharpish I'm going to have to turn the opportunity down.What controls do they have over the fuel card? It could be a significant tax liability if you did get the card.
Edited to fix mileage
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