Daughter in law's fiesta, no workey, any ideas folks
Daughter in law's fiesta, no workey, any ideas folks
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silverback mike

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11,292 posts

270 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Damn car.....

03 plate 1.3 litre petrol fiesta, sometimes fails to start, sometimes does and runs ok, other times doesn't start at all and other times cuts out.

I've had a go at most things to no avail. Just wondering if the PH Plethora of brains could suggest how to fix it. I'm damned if its going to beat me.

What sort of things am I looking at? What should I check.
Hopefully someone will come out with a hint or something that I have missed.
banghead

Thanks folks

Mike.


Carrot

7,294 posts

219 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Dispack or Coilpack?

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

224 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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silverback mike said:
Damn car.....

03 plate 1.3 litre petrol fiesta, sometimes fails to start, sometimes does and runs ok, other times doesn't start at all and other times cuts out.

I've had a go at most things to no avail. Just wondering if the PH Plethora of brains could suggest how to fix it. I'm damned if its going to beat me.

What sort of things am I looking at? What should I check.
Hopefully someone will come out with a hint or something that I have missed.
banghead

Thanks folks

Mike.
Possibility, relays, fuel pump/injectors.
Can get "sticky", if it doesn't start, have someone cranking it whilst you tap the relay(s).
From experience, not a Fiesta though.

bigdods

7,175 posts

244 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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With any faults on any reasonably modern car its always a good idea to get the fault codes read from the ECU, this may well point you directly to the culprit.

Dont go to the dealers, most small garages can read your codes, usually for beer money or a small fee. Or find a Fiesta owners forum, post up the problem you may find someone nearby has a code reader that can help.

e.g. I have a TVR code reader that gets borrowed occasionally by other people. A bloke up the road from me has a vauxhall tech2 that works on my Omega and the local garage has a code reader that can scan my VW Golf.

Fault codes dont always tell you exactly what is wrong but if you post them on a specialist forum chnces are someone will come along and say 'oh I had exactly the same codes , I fixed it by changing the widget pin'


ETA: or buy your own fault code reader from amazon for ~£20 http://www.amazon.co.uk/CAN-Bus-Trouble-Diagnose-D...

One of the reviewers for this unit has used it on a fiest so it *should* do the job**

**usual disclaimers apply, do your research and make sure its compatible

Sounds like a crank sensor fault, should be cheap as chips to replace e.g. on my Omega its £60 for the part and about 30 mins to fit. Could also be cam sensor, fault code reader might help to work it out


Edited by bigdods on Thursday 10th March 10:57

trickywoo

13,177 posts

247 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Classic cam or crank position sensor sensor failure signs.

If the cam position sensor is cheap and easy to replace diy do that.

silverback mike

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11,292 posts

270 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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cam position sensor scratchchin Didn't think of that, thanks for all so far chaps.


Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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If it's the crank sensor, it might be fun to remove on a 1.3. I assume it's the Endura E motor?

The Bell Housing is steel, and the sensor, despite being plastic, gets sealed in with rust.

I did one the other day - had to loosen the gearbox and wedge it away from the engine to get a 10mm gap to play with, then basically drill the sensor out and remove the bits through the gap.

Also, these engines suffer from the coil pack going bad after a while. It's bolted to the back of the engine, and with time develops a high resistance in the primary windings.

This then backs up and burns out the switching FET's in the ECU, so it's worth checking and maybe changing to avoid further damage.




HellDiver

5,708 posts

199 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Classic Endura-E issue is the cam sensor, followed by the crank sensor. I think the crank sensor still uses the optical jobby, so take it out and wipe the gunk off it, should cure the problem.

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

233 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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HellDiver said:
Classic Endura-E issue is the cam sensor, followed by the crank sensor. I think the crank sensor still uses the optical jobby, so take it out and wipe the gunk off it, should cure the problem.
Crank sensor is magnetic hall-effect.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

199 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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Ah, it must be the old 1.4CVH that's the optical one. I remember having to clean the buggering thing quite often on the family Escorts, couldn't remember if it was the 1.3 or 1.4.

silverback mike

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270 months

Thursday 10th March 2011
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It's a 1.4 bangheadbanghead