Coach Driver being an arse on the M4 last night
Coach Driver being an arse on the M4 last night
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Cyder

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7,186 posts

249 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Heading east on the M4 last night I entered the 50 limit around Reading, I had just overtaken a National Express coach and was in the middle lane overtaking a couple of other vehicles with my cruise control set at 50 when I see the coach come steaming up behind me to sit a foot off the rear bumper flashing his lights. (The 50 wa verified by GPS as well so it wasn't as if the speedo is reading out)

As I was still moving past the vehicles in the inside lane I obviously wasn't going to pull left out of his way immediately, nor was I prepared to wind the speed up and potentially get zapped by the Gestapo so I sat there and continued to slowly trundle past the van while still being flashed by the coach.

As I'd finished the overtake I got another flash of the lights from him as I pulled in and he started to accelerate and begin overtaking me, unfortunately for him we were just reaching the NSL sign so I dropped a cog and floored it leaving him going somewhat mental with rage at me. hehe

Exactly what was his problem? I seem to spend hours of my life sat behind coaches and lorries when they're elephant racing but when I drive at the speed limit and hold them up it's a different matter isn't it?!

Why do people get so wound up on the roads for the sake of a few seconds?

JonnyFive

29,897 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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No idea why they do this.. Lorries, also.

Average speed cameras on the M1.. I'm doing GPS indicated 50mph and lorries and coaches are over taking me? confused

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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The worst bit of tailgaiting I've ever had was by a coach, coincidentally the same company, in pouring rain on the M1 a few years back. It was beyond dangerous. I was a relatively new driver at the time and felt panicked by it but eventually managed to get out of his way.

In hindsight, I wish I'd reported him. No shaddow of a doubt, his driving was endagering people on a busy wet m-way. I dare say he could see over the spray, but I and almost every other road user wouldnt have been able to.

Total plick.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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O/T do you know of anyone that's been done by average speed cameras?

Are they the Scamera Partnership's greatest non working secret?

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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JonnyFive said:
No idea why they do this.. Lorries, also.

Average speed cameras on the M1.. I'm doing GPS indicated 50mph and lorries and coaches are over taking me? confused
I've absolutely no problems with anyone going faster than me if they so chose, but I do not appreciate being tailgated or pressurised into going faster when I am driving with consierate lane discipline.

Equally, I dont appreciate people trying to make me go slower, either....

JonnyFive

29,897 posts

218 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Pork said:
JonnyFive said:
No idea why they do this.. Lorries, also.

Average speed cameras on the M1.. I'm doing GPS indicated 50mph and lorries and coaches are over taking me? confused
I've absolutely no problems with anyone going faster than me if they so chose, but I do not appreciate being tailgated or pressurised into going faster when I am driving with consierate lane discipline.

Equally, I dont appreciate people trying to make me go slower, either....
No, I agree.. I just don't get how they go through the scameras at a faster speed than me. Maybe they know they don't work.

They do take up ALOT of the lanes when they go past though! eek

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Tyre Smoke said:
O/T do you know of anyone that's been done by average speed cameras?

Are they the Scamera Partnership's greatest non working secret?
+1
the professional drivers I know ignore them....none of them have been prosecuted

devnull

3,864 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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I do the newport 50 average limit drive a few times a week, doing a GPS verified 50 via my speed limiter on the Merc. You always get someone who wants to go faster than you, and charges up your arse, regardless of lane.

I always wonder what they know that I don't, since 50 all the way through is an average of 50!

Agrilla

834 posts

212 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Grrr this is one of my biggest pet hates!

Having said that though, considering how many other cars are in traffic with me, it doesn't really happen so often.

I'm happy to pull in and pull back out again if I know someone wants to go faster than me, but I did have some ignorant bh on the M6 a while back who was so close at 70+ that I couldn't see any of the bonnet of her car in my rear view mirror, but couldn't pull back into the nearside lane so had no other option but to take the highway code's advice and begin to slow down. No idea why she didn't just use the 2nd overtaking lane anyway, and if we'd have come to a halt in traffic, it's the only time so far that I'd've been tempted to get out and have a chat - I was genuinely scared at what might've happened if I'd had to brake at all.

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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devnull said:
I do the newport 50 average limit drive a few times a week, doing a GPS verified 50 via my speed limiter on the Merc. You always get someone who wants to go faster than you, and charges up your arse, regardless of lane.

I always wonder what they know that I don't, since 50 all the way through is an average of 50!
I went through the one on the M1 a while back at 50-52 or so, and an RS4 went past me like I was going backwards. No word of a lie, my car shook as he passed me and the engine was a full pelt! Not long after, a Bentley went past doing similar speeds. What do they know?

devnull

3,864 posts

186 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Pork said:
I went through the one on the M1 a while back at 50-52 or so, and an RS4 went past me like I was going backwards. No word of a lie, my car shook as he passed me and the engine was a full pelt! Not long after, a Bentley went past doing similar speeds. What do they know?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-11937954

6500 people have been done in Newport (the limit has just partly changed to variable), so perhaps they are a bit dumb.

eybic

9,212 posts

203 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Commercial drivers are "playing the game", before prosecution there is a tolerance of about 10% +1 which means in theory they can cruise through a 50 limit at their max speed (56mph) and be on the limit.

AB

20,478 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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National Express coaches always seem to steam around everywhere.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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eybic said:
Commercial drivers are "playing the game", before prosecution there is a tolerance of about 10% +1 which means in theory they can cruise through a 50 limit at their max speed (56mph) and be on the limit.
Coaches aren't limited to 56mph (100km/h) though.

eybic

9,212 posts

203 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Tyre Smoke said:
Coaches aren't limited to 56mph (100km/h) though.
Really? Bloody hell, are they not limited at all?

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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eybic said:
Really? Bloody hell, are they not limited at all?
Don't think there is a mandatory requirement for limiters on coaches. I do know that only recently they were permitted in lane 3 too.

Pork

9,455 posts

263 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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Tyre Smoke said:
eybic said:
Really? Bloody hell, are they not limited at all?
Don't think there is a mandatory requirement for limiters on coaches. I do know that only recently they were permitted in lane 3 too.
I thought coaches were always allowed in lane 3 - what changed and how long will it be until artics are able to use it too?

dylan0451

1,040 posts

220 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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eybic said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Coaches aren't limited to 56mph (100km/h) though.
Really? Bloody hell, are they not limited at all?
tend to get overtaken by them quite a bit when i go up the a1 with the cruise set at 70.

i wasn't aware coaches were capable of 80 odd to be honest!

AB

20,478 posts

224 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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dylan0451 said:
eybic said:
Tyre Smoke said:
Coaches aren't limited to 56mph (100km/h) though.
Really? Bloody hell, are they not limited at all?
tend to get overtaken by them quite a bit when i go up the a1 with the cruise set at 70.

i wasn't aware coaches were capable of 80 odd to be honest!
The newer National Express ones are definitely capable of 80.

oldcynic

2,166 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th March 2011
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I've been going through the M1 average camera section (J10 to J12) at an indicated 54mph for months and haven't noticed any tickets yet. However I wouldn't give anyone a hint of grief until they're down to 40-45 for a fair while and the road ahead is clear (sumpremely irritating in the contraflow lane). Even then I simply move a little closer, nothing silly, or use an alternative lane where possible.