Dodgy Sky HD Box
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Oakey

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27,964 posts

238 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Our Sky HD box is showing signs of PSU failure. This is the second box, the last one is rotting in the cupboard. This one is 14 months old so I expect Sky to try and wiggle out of it by saying it's out of warranty despite the fact it's a well known design flaw due to the use of el cheapo capacitors during manufacturing.

Anyone got any tips for making them replace it?

The last one only lasted around 18 months as well. It's not good enough really, you wouldn't expect this sort of failure rate from any other piece of electrical appliance so why Sky think it's acceptable for customers to accumulate dead boxes over the years I don't know.

ETA: I tell a lie, this is the third box after having the second replaced after just a week when it also started exhibiting PSU issues.

parapaul

2,828 posts

220 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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TBH I think you'll be lucky - this is the exact reason they start trying to flog you their warranty once your box is 9 or 10 months old.

Webber3

1,228 posts

241 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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If Sky do replace it, you'll probably get a refurbed box with the same cheapo caps.

If don't want to solder all new caps in, you can just buy an exchanged PSU board. It will only take a few mins to fit.

fatboy b

9,661 posts

238 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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For £65, Sky will come out with a second-hand box, and do a complete wiring / dish / LNB check. And they give it a 3 month warranty. Hardly worth getting all flustered over the fact yours is out of warranty.

JustinP1

13,357 posts

252 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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I've had Sky plus for 7 years and HD for 5.

I'm on my fourth Plus box and as of a couple of months also my fourth HD box.

Up until then, every one was replaced free and gratis. Tech department will say you need to pay £70. You politely decline and say you want to cancel. You go to a special retention department who are allowed to 'break the rules'. You tell them you want to cancel and take your money to Virgin. They ask you when you want your free box installed. smile

Last time was different, as although they can break the rules, the department is either limited or targeted on what they can give away.

That time they told me that they couldn't give me a new (recon) box for free this time. I tell them I want to leave, and he offered a deal: I pay £65 for a call out, and they give me 25% off my bill for a year.

This time the tech guy took one look at the old box, told me it was very old and took a brand new one from a box. So, they gave me a new box, and over the next year, even after paying the £65, I'm £120 up over the course of the year.


Hope this helps.

Oakey

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27,964 posts

238 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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It's in their interests to do something, at the end of the day if the box fails I can no longer receive the service therefore there is no reason for me to pay for it.

I just find it utterly ridiculous these things have such a high failure rate.

Question: If you pay them the £65 and they replace the box, I assume they don't take the old one as that is yours bought and paid for? Or is it some part exchange deal?

mcflurry

9,184 posts

275 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Oakey said:
Or is it some part exchange deal?
It is indeed.
Old box thrown in back of van, new box/cable/dish/LNB installed as required. £65 (or haggle)

Deva Link

26,934 posts

267 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Oakey said:
It's in their interests to do something, at the end of the day if the box fails I can no longer receive the service therefore there is no reason for me to pay for it.
Seems bonkers, really. Why on earth don't they rent you the box as part of the subscription and they they take total responsibility for it?

JustinP1

13,357 posts

252 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Deva Link said:
Oakey said:
It's in their interests to do something, at the end of the day if the box fails I can no longer receive the service therefore there is no reason for me to pay for it.
Seems bonkers, really. Why on earth don't they rent you the box as part of the subscription and they they take total responsibility for it?
Because then they couldn't charge you once every 18 months for a new/recon box! smile

Deva Link

26,934 posts

267 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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JustinP1 said:
Because then they couldn't charge you once every 18 months for a new/recon box! smile
I wonder how many people cancel? I suppose they must have done the sums and think they can get away it.

Maybe customers could use the Sale of Goods Act, but perhaps that's complicated if the box is supplied at nominal price in the first place.

JustinP1

13,357 posts

252 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Deva Link said:
JustinP1 said:
Because then they couldn't charge you once every 18 months for a new/recon box! smile
I wonder how many people cancel? I suppose they must have done the sums and think they can get away it.

Maybe customers could use the Sale of Goods Act, but perhaps that's complicated if the box is supplied at nominal price in the first place.
Funnily enough, on one of the occasions, the fist HD box I think, it died after 14 months or so. When I spoke to 'customer service' they told me it was out of warranty, so pay up.

I reminded them of the SofGA and they told me that they didn't have to conform to them!

Astonished, I asked if I could get a pen so I could start writing this down, word for word... At which point the line went dead.

Every time I simply reminded them:

1) I give them £1000 a year combined for all services.

2) Virgin services are already connected to my house, and

3) It would be silly of them to lose my business over a comped callout.