Mobile Cameras for A38
Road Safety minister in Plymouth today
Today in Plymouth Road Safety Minister David Jamieson MP, will launch the forthcoming introduction of mobile safety cameras on the A38 dual carriageway.
The site is a known casualty hotspot. In the past three years, three people have been killed and two seriously injured at the site. There have also been 19 slight injuries.
The launch is intended to remind motorist s of the dangers of speeding and give at least one weeks notice prior to actual enforcement (the introduction of safety cameras will take place on Monday, 17th May).
David Jamieson MP, Road Safety Minister said: "This road is known for its poor accident history and it is vital that steps are taken to improve its safety. These mobile units are one of many road safety measures being implemented locally to reduce death and injury on roads in Plymouth .
"Today is about education and reminding motorist s of the dangers of speeding. But when enforcement does start, we don't want to catch people - we just want people to slow down and drive safely. "
The launch is an opportunity to highlight the positive steps being taken by the Partnership to reduce the number of fatal and serious injury collisions on this road. The mobile units will be clearly liveried and highly visible safety camera symbols have already been placed at various locations along the route.
Speed enforcement is being implemented to assist engineering measures that have been installed by the Highways Agency.
David Hughes, Project Manager for the Partnership, said "By working together with our partners, and producing a combination of engineering and speed enforcement, we hope to achieve a significant reduction in road casualties ."
Or how many were caused by someone doing less than the limit, but who has no interest in driving so drives without paying attention, does not have a properly serviced and safe car, does not know the highway code, or is tired, needs their eyes checked etc. etc.
How about attending to the real causes of accidents instead of doing things for easy headlines.
(Yes I know speed adds to the results of an accident but more important in that respect is the type of vehicle.
And yes of course really excessive speed in the wrong place is dangerous. But the time, resources and priority given to catching people exceeding the limits by a small margin or when the road is clear, is mad.)
And no I do not have any points on my license.
I think the main reason for the accidents on that road, are because of Tractors going slow, thus culminating in all the cars going into one lane, and then some berk not paying attention hitting the back of the que....
The last fatal accident was due to a car towing a burger van at 65, lost control flipped into another car and killed someone, no speed camera would have caught the car and burger van because they were within the speed limit....
Makes me angry........
Most of the accidents on that road are caused by slow moving agricultural vehicles, and also 'Sidmouth Geriatrics' during the summer months... The little old pensioner who only takes his car out for a run when the weather's nice, and has never been done for speeding, or been in an accident. (although he's probably seen plenty out of his rear window..)
He's the type who indicates and moves out without checking his mirror, or feels that he's driving safely and everyone else is speeding (it's a speed limit - not a target..)
And boy, have several of them almost got me at times.
And to really make sure, some of them tow caravans, and cause even more mayhem.
It needs more traffic police patrolling, not mobile (or static) cameras - and people being advised of their bad driving habits which detrimentally affect other road users, and may even be the cause of a fatal accident.
The only accidents I have seen were due to standing water, tw@s in caravans falling over on Holden hill and a bit of black ice. Not what is needed at all.
Sort out the tractors and grockles and allocate the resource to sorting out Swilly. Preferably with a bulldozer.
gh0st said:
It's no use you guys complaining on this site about this. Write to your MP, local newspaper and the local council. That's the only way we can influence anything.
.... or get a jammer
They'll have trouble finding someone in Plymouth who will be able to operate a detector in the first place
I have driven between Paington and Plymouth every working day for the last 7 years, and whilst I fully agree there have been several accidents, they were not generaly ones that would have been prevented by a speed camera. That section of the A38 in dry weather is a pretty good bit of road, and certainly I wouldn't consider 80-85mph (traffic allowing) as remotely unsafe. The road surface is very badly drained however, and in heavy rian you get patches of quite deep standing water that could easy cause aquaplaning at speed well below the limit. Of course, speed cameras are cheaper than road engineering.
I urge anyone who uses this road to fax Mr Jameisons and point out how misguided his simplistic views of road safety really are. Meanwhile I'm going to buy a jammer^H^H garage door opener, any pointers on the best one to buy?
Mr2Mike said:
David Jamieson is Brunstroms twin brother, if not in looks then certainly in ridiculous schemes such as this. I have faxed him about previous mistruths he was quoted as saying in the local paper regarding KSI rates, and even had my own letter published rebuffing his claims. However, no reply from him as yet.
I have driven between Paington and Plymouth every working day for the last 7 years, and whilst I fully agree there have been several accidents, they were not generaly ones that would have been prevented by a speed camera. That section of the A38 in dry weather is a pretty good bit of road, and certainly I wouldn't consider 80-85mph (traffic allowing) as remotely unsafe. The road surface is very badly drained however, and in heavy rian you get patches of quite deep standing water that could easy cause aquaplaning at speed well below the limit. Of course, speed cameras are cheaper than road engineering.
I urge anyone who uses this road to fax Mr Jameisons and point out how misguided his simplistic views of road safety really are. Meanwhile I'm going to buy a jammer^H^H garage door opener, any pointers on the best one to buy?
working with who, just themselves as per normal, millions of motorist millions of hours worth of experience but do they incorporate those into their plans no...
There is blatantly little thought which goes into speed cameras. Take St Mellion and Dobwalls in SE Cornwall for example, villages with a fat A road through the middle. They NEED a camera as people come munting through bigtime.
I suppose that they are protecting the public as how many of you look in your mirror to see if its loaded/flashed when you drive past it. Judging by the cameras and my own experience, you do a millisecond check and then a car pulls out from a junction. Witness the amount of rubber on the road at Menheniot (A38 Cornwall).
It reinforces the "Flash for Cash" status which these "Safety Cameras" have. I was talking to a WPC about it and she said it was pretty much out of their hands. When they put anything resembling a camera on the A374. A """"MIGHT"""" go and get a Stihl cutter!
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