Smoky slow diesels
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300bhp/ton

Original Poster:

41,030 posts

219 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Why is it so many diesels are so smoky?? confused


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz2Oh_DGo7M&fea...

MondeoMan1981

2,457 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Is it not more soot than smoke ?

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

232 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Sounds cool

supersingle

3,205 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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No smoke, no poke.

lescombes

968 posts

239 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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MondeoMan1981 said:
Is it not more soot than smoke ?
It is soot...from the exhaust and the smoke is from the burn out.....don't you just love the sight of "coal" being pushed into the environment... I run an oil burner....no DPF ...on veg oil...no soot

skene

2,790 posts

201 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Is it not just the excess fuel not being burnt until the turbo comes on and it forces enough oxygen into the cylinders? Similar thing happens with diesel powered tractor pullers

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

196 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
Why is it so many diesels are so smoky?? confused


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz2Oh_DGo7M&fea...
that is the B5.9 Cummins. I had one in a tractor for 8 years/6500+ hrs at a much lower power rating than the 500 hp they thought that pickup might have.

The smoke is when the turbo spools up. Really, to get that amount of power reliably he needs the 15litre in it.

When those heavy duty diesels are set up properly there should be a haze coming from the stack when they are under full load, not a nuclear winter.

It also sounds like it is screaming its head off. I doubt that it running at 2200 rpm

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 17th March 2011
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Like a gasoline engine, a diesel engine makes best torque when the air to fuel ratio is significantly richer than stoichometric (ideal mass of fuel to use all the air in the cylinder) In a gasoline, the unburnt but vapourised and hot gasoline just burns off cleanly in the exhaust (sometimes as flames at the tailpipe when it's really rich ;-) But in a diesel, with exhaust temps being so much lower, and the fuel much less volatile, the unburnt hydocarbons tend to not fully oxidise, and form soot, which it the hazy clud you see being chucked out the tailpipe.

Modern CR diesel run at a minimium AFR of approx 16:1, whereas peak torque will be down at approx 12:1. Hence, especially when chipped etc, when making peak torque is important (usually at low rpm, below the boost threshold) the engine will be run as rich as possible (within the smoke limits set by the OEM if std) to make the most na torque, in an effort to smooth the transition into boost and the much high torque that the increased airflow can now support, even at a much leander AFR.

The "smoke limit" maps, are usually the first to be culled by the aftermarket chippers, in an effort to maximise torque, but at the expense of smoke production.