Moving a gas meter.
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cjs

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11,486 posts

275 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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It's already on an outside porch wall, but the porch is being demolished, the meter needs to be moved maybe 700mm to the main front wall. Anyone know if I will be charged? Gas supply is with EDF.

Ground will need digging out and the main incoming supply extended. I'll be arranging a new pipe into the house.

Matt_Tilda

154 posts

205 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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I looked into the cost of moving both gas and electricity meters, and I was quoted around a couple of thousand. Sorry, can't remember the exact figures, but it's not cheap!

cjs

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11,486 posts

275 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
Gas engineer I know is moving one for a mate probably the same distance - I think a few beers and £20 is covering it.

It is no biggy if you find an independent.
Is an independent "allowed" to do this and extend the incoming pipe?

dave_s13

13,991 posts

293 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Cost me £730 eek

Northern gas networks. Moved it about 3m from inside the old kitchen to inside coal cupboard.

Robbing bstds they are.

You need to have a look on your utility cos website, all info should be there.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

269 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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cjs said:
Is an independent "allowed" to do this and extend the incoming pipe?
Of course not, but who will know? You can do anything you like in life, as long as you don't get caught.

spdpug98

1,551 posts

246 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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The MIL had a lot of work carried out at her house last year, we had a quote to move her gas meter from underneath the sink in the kitchen to the outside wall and they wanted c. £1000 to move it 1m

cjs

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Friday 18th March 2011
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Deva Link said:
Of course not, but who will know? You can do anything you like in life, as long as you don't get caught.
I'm all up for that, it's not a huge job, I'm just no sure where they will turn the incoming gas off from? Can't see a stop cock out the front.

dave_s13

13,991 posts

293 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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I would be (and actually was) very, very wary of anyone touching your gas meter.

As far as I can remember it's ok for a registered bloke to move the meter as long as they don't touch the main safety valve. Anything that involves moving this has to be done by the utility co or their approved contractor.

I had a chap offer to do mine for £350 (as oppose to £730). In the event he ballsed it up and my house/street exploded that would have been all my fault.

Like I said, ring your gas supplier, they will put you in touch with the right people. Cost nowt to ask.

Oh yeah and, very helpful this, the util co will move your meter but then refuse to reconnect your internal pipework. This means you have to arrange for a gas safe engineer to be there when they've finished to get you up and running again.

Edited by dave_s13 on Friday 18th March 13:03

Deva Link

26,934 posts

269 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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cjs said:
I'm all up for that, it's not a huge job, I'm just no sure where they will turn the incoming gas off from? Can't see a stop cock out the front.
I suppose in the same way as if he was doing it for his employer. I wouldn't be surprised if they do these things "live".

dirkgently

2,160 posts

255 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Deva Link said:
I suppose in the same way as if he was doing it for his employer. I wouldn't be surprised if they do these things "live".
They do.

sheldo

91 posts

204 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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i do this for a living and have done for a long while. The gas board can somewhere in the region of 800 - 1000 for this sort of work. If you can find someone thats a suby and willing to take the risk its a 10 minute job and would be done for a good drink. Then just get a plumber round to do the copper work.

sheldo

91 posts

204 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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CJS if the service is plastic already then a squeeze off technique will be used. If steel then it will be a live cut off and then they will either use a steel to plastic fitting or will live insert the service back to the main

sheldo

91 posts

204 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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There is a risk with doing this work as mentioned above. It is deffinatley a job for professionals with the correct gno level of training and equipment. I.e knowledge, experience, gas masks and saftey equipment and clothing. If done by an amature it could have fatal consequences. Fewer and fewer sub contractors are doing these jobs on the side these days as getting caught can be game over for them, the grid see it as stealing, then £50 quid dosen't seem so appealing. Also the fittings used can be traced back to depots and engineers they are supplied to.

karona

1,928 posts

210 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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Is the work being done to improve the life of someone with a disability? Say 'yes' and the Gas Board may well move the meter for free. This was certainly the case for us in Scotland when I installed a ground-floor bathroom for my wife, who has MS.

dave_s13

13,991 posts

293 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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sheldo said:
......... If you can find someone thats a suby and willing to take the risk its a 10 minute job and would be done for a good drink. Then just get a plumber round to do the copper work.
It's not the subbie taking the risk though. He'll be long gone after the jobs sorted.

The risk and liability is all down to the homeowner in reality and not worth it to save a few hundred quid.

sheldo

91 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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i agree dave but the subbie will do the work and test it to the exact same standard as if he was working on and planned job via the grid, but it only takes someone in the know to see the work being carried out as a pj and thats it for his lively hood. I've seen it happen and everytime it wasn't really worth the drink.

I even know of someone that done it as a favour for his mate only for the customer to then phone up the grid to brag that he had managed to get it done cheaper and faster than quoted by them and that they were useless. He then went on to give them the name of the guy and the van reg and after 30 years loyal service he works for them no more.

Busamav

2,954 posts

232 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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Deva Link said:
cjs said:
Is an independent "allowed" to do this and extend the incoming pipe?
Of course not, but who will know? You can do anything you like in life, as long as you don't get caught.
Most of the guys doing these weekend moves are the same guys you would pay a fortune and wait 6 weeks for .

Super Slo Mo

5,373 posts

222 months

Saturday 19th March 2011
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I've had mine shifted this week, total distance of about 6 metres, and involved them 'moleing' (their words) a new pipe in from the road.

It took 4 weeks or so from the initial survey to the actual work, although I believe they can take up to 10 weeks. At the moment, the holes haven't been backfilled, which is a bit of a pain.

Total cost: £520.00. That's all through official channels. It's more if they have to dig a trench to fit the new pipe, although you can do that yourself, or get your own builder/contractor in to do it. The last metre or so, the gas board (EON here in North Staffs) dig out themselves.

On top of that, they've had to put in a complete new pipe from the road for next door, since he was tee'd off mine, and which now isn't allowed since it's under my new extension. That cost us and next door nothing.

As far as I'm aware, £520 (inc VAT) is the 'standard' price, without any trench digging etc (other than the hole in front of the meter box, and the one in the road.


Super Slo Mo

5,373 posts

222 months

Sunday 20th March 2011
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Super Slo Mo said:
I've had mine shifted this week, total distance of about 6 metres, and involved them 'moleing' (their words) a new pipe in from the road.

It took 4 weeks or so from the initial survey to the actual work, although I believe they can take up to 10 weeks. At the moment, the holes haven't been backfilled, which is a bit of a pain.

Total cost: £520.00. That's all through official channels. It's more if they have to dig a trench to fit the new pipe, although you can do that yourself, or get your own builder/contractor in to do it. The last metre or so, the gas board (EON here in North Staffs - ETA, got that wrong, it's National Grid. EON are shifting the electricity meter) dig out themselves.

On top of that, they've had to put in a complete new pipe from the road for next door, since he was tee'd off mine, and which now isn't allowed since it's under my new extension. That cost us and next door nothing.

As far as I'm aware, £520 (inc VAT) is the 'standard' price, without any trench digging etc (other than the hole in front of the meter box, and the one in the road.

AndrewO

679 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I've done a couple of new installations on renovations. After alot of phone calls to understand it all I use BGas/SGN to do all the work, its a bit more money up front but they offer a rebate afterwards. Its around £800 to supply a gas pipe for the average terrace house and £400 rebate.