Nurburgring - Organised Trackdays, Who to use?
Nurburgring - Organised Trackdays, Who to use?
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tomvcarter

Original Poster:

1,091 posts

217 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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http://www.nurburgringuk.com/trackdays.php
http://www.destination-nurburgring.com/dates
I know about, but who else is there that do the same as the dates witht he above are not ideal for me...?

ringweekends

625 posts

277 months

Friday 18th March 2011
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NurburgringUK aren't a track day organiser. They sell spaces on trackdays.de half days, in the same way that trackdays.co.uk sell spaces on my Destination Nürburgring events.

It's worth knowing as most of the German organisers require third party insurance cover on their track days.

Check who your dealing with.

phatgixer

4,988 posts

273 months

agtlaw

7,317 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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phatgixer said:
again, in this instance, a reseller for trackdays.de rather than a TDO.

gtdc

4,259 posts

307 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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If it was me I'd book with Bookatrack or RMA. Both pukka UK based organisers and both run a good event.

I prefer to deal direct with the organiser, not go through a reseller.

Melindi

tertius

6,914 posts

254 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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gtdc said:
If it was me I'd book with Bookatrack or RMA. Both pukka UK based organisers and both run a good event.

I prefer to deal direct with the organiser, not go through a reseller.

Melindi
Unfortunately neither BaT nor RMA seem to have Nordschleife dates this year. I would (and am) go with DN.

gtdc

4,259 posts

307 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I don't know them so can't comment. I think the only non-UK organiser I've ever been on a day with was Pistenklub.

As long as people make the normal checks they'd make on a UK organiser and make sure they pay by credit card then it should be fine.

Melindi

agtlaw

7,317 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Destination Nurburgring (Ringweekends Ltd) is a Coventry-based ATDO member.

gtdc

4,259 posts

307 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Sorry, I thought they were broking a day not organising it.

My fault for not concentrating.

Melindi

ringweekends

625 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Hi!

Resellers are fine, as long as you know and understand what it is you're booking. I deal with lots of resellers in Germany and ensure that they in turn communicate the terms of the event to their customers.

As I mentioned - some of the German TDO's run their events with a third party insurance requirement. In many instances German road car insurance covers these drivers, as the German TDO's are running 'driver training' events - not track days as you and I would imagine here in the UK.

If a UK driver happens to unwittingly book onto an event such as this, and have an issue with colliding with another car, they may be held financially liable by the other party's insurance company and expected to pay for their damage. I don't fancy that kind of conversation with my insurers - would you?

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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ringweekends said:
Hi!

Resellers are fine, as long as you know and understand what it is you're booking. I deal with lots of resellers in Germany and ensure that they in turn communicate the terms of the event to their customers.

As I mentioned - some of the German TDO's run their events with a third party insurance requirement. In many instances German road car insurance covers these drivers, as the German TDO's are running 'driver training' events - not track days as you and I would imagine here in the UK.

If a UK driver happens to unwittingly book onto an event such as this, and have an issue with colliding with another car, they may be held financially liable by the other party's insurance company and expected to pay for their damage. I don't fancy that kind of conversation with my insurers - would you?
Do you allow racing cars and slicks on your Nurburgring TDs?

ringweekends

625 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Slicks are permissible where adequate rollover protection is fitted - i.e. a roll cage.

Same rules as normal UK track day. A non exhaustive list of general conditions can be found HERE

Are you tempted this year? We're ATDO members now?

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Would love to especially as you have ATDO cover but novice drivers in road legal road cars and amateur racing drivers driving stripped out rockets with slicks on around the Nurburgring at the same time does worry me.

Maybe I am getting old.

Edited by SAGRIFF on Wednesday 23 March 19:04

ringweekends

625 posts

277 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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smile

Which category would you fit in?

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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ringweekends said:
smile

Which category would you fit in?
Intermediate driver in road legal car.

GreigM

6,740 posts

273 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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SAGRIFF said:
Would love to especially as you have ATDO cover but novice drivers in road legal road cars and amateur racing drivers driving stripped out rockets with slicks on around the Nurburgring at the same time does worry me.
Is this not the case at EVERY trackday? A mixture of abilites has to be expected....and the car generally has little to do with how quick its going.

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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GreigM said:
Is this not the case at EVERY trackday? A mixture of abilites has to be expected....and the car generally has little to do with how quick its going.
agree, though the closing speeds of a novice in a Chim and a experienced quick driver in a Racing Tuscan can be yikes even more so at the Ring I would think,

like I said maybe I am getting old.

Guillotine

5,516 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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you got a chim now...?

wink

jonnyleroux

1,511 posts

284 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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SAGRIFF said:
Would love to especially as you have ATDO cover but novice drivers in road legal road cars and amateur racing drivers driving stripped out rockets with slicks on around the Nurburgring at the same time does worry me.

Maybe I am getting old.

Edited by SAGRIFF on Wednesday 23 March 19:04
Personally I think racers on slicks are far safer to share a track with than some spotty oik in a chavved up stwagon with TDF tyres and no experience. Trackdays over TouristFahrten every day of the week.

Jonny
BaT

SAGRIFF

2,312 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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jonnyleroux said:
Personally I think racers on slicks are far safer to share a track with than some spotty oik in a chavved up stwagon with TDF tyres and no experience. Trackdays over TouristFahrten every day of the week.

Jonny
BaT
but it's when you mix the 2 together you start to get big problems.