been told my clutch is going :(
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hi i have just had my peugeot 206 1.6 sport put in to have a small dent taken out of the wheelarch of the car and had a phone call to ask if i was aware that my clutch is on its way out. they said there not mechanics but ive got no reason not to believe them as they are unable to to fix it. the only problem ive noticed is that i sometimes get a grinding noise when chaning gears i thort that was just me liftin the clutch to quick and sometimes i struggle to get the car into reverse when starting the car up. so what im after is any advice to know whether my clutch has gone and how long ive got left before it goes. and also if anyone knows roughly how much to fix it
thanks x
thanks x
You might have a shot synchro, the clutch might indeed be failing, it might just need adjusting (if that's possible on your car), it might just be because it's French or it COULD simply be chromosomal, but the fact your bodyshop has noticed it kind of rules that out.
Truth is you could get pages and pages of crap here to answer your question but you really just need to take it to a mechanic in person to get it diagnosed properly.
Truth is you could get pages and pages of crap here to answer your question but you really just need to take it to a mechanic in person to get it diagnosed properly.
True - you need a mechanic's opinion, but the problem with that is that if you ask a mechanic "Does my clutch need changing?" they will probably say yes!
If you get a crunch when the clutch is fully in and you change gear, that can be a symptom.
Where is the biting point on the clutch? Very near the top?
Do you notice the clutch slipping? (That is, if you accelerate hard the revs rise without the road speed increasing)
You can check by trying to pull away from a standstill in 4th gear with some revs - if the car stalls, your clutch is OK. If the revs hold up then you may have a slipping clutch.
It tends not to happen instantly, but if it is on the way out it will get worse and worse, so just gauge when it is starting to be a problem (ie, can't accelerate quickly without it slipping).
Cost-wise, it can be a bit of a pain on FWD car because it is on one end of the engine and can mean the engine needs to be jacked up or come partway out. I'd be budgeting £500 or so just in case...
If you get a crunch when the clutch is fully in and you change gear, that can be a symptom.
Where is the biting point on the clutch? Very near the top?
Do you notice the clutch slipping? (That is, if you accelerate hard the revs rise without the road speed increasing)
You can check by trying to pull away from a standstill in 4th gear with some revs - if the car stalls, your clutch is OK. If the revs hold up then you may have a slipping clutch.
It tends not to happen instantly, but if it is on the way out it will get worse and worse, so just gauge when it is starting to be a problem (ie, can't accelerate quickly without it slipping).
Cost-wise, it can be a bit of a pain on FWD car because it is on one end of the engine and can mean the engine needs to be jacked up or come partway out. I'd be budgeting £500 or so just in case...
NiceCupOfTea said:
True - you need a mechanic's opinion, but the problem with that is that if you ask a mechanic "Does my clutch need changing?" they will probably say yes!
If you get a crunch when the clutch is fully in and you change gear, that can be a symptom.
Where is the biting point on the clutch? Very near the top?
Do you notice the clutch slipping? (That is, if you accelerate hard the revs rise without the road speed increasing)
You can check by trying to pull away from a standstill in 4th gear with some revs - if the car stalls, your clutch is OK. If the revs hold up then you may have a slipping clutch.
It tends not to happen instantly, but if it is on the way out it will get worse and worse, so just gauge when it is starting to be a problem (ie, can't accelerate quickly without it slipping).
Cost-wise, it can be a bit of a pain on FWD car because it is on one end of the engine and can mean the engine needs to be jacked up or come partway out. I'd be budgeting £500 or so just in case...
She said it's a 206. I wouldnt even imagine a main dealer charging £500 for a clutch.If you get a crunch when the clutch is fully in and you change gear, that can be a symptom.
Where is the biting point on the clutch? Very near the top?
Do you notice the clutch slipping? (That is, if you accelerate hard the revs rise without the road speed increasing)
You can check by trying to pull away from a standstill in 4th gear with some revs - if the car stalls, your clutch is OK. If the revs hold up then you may have a slipping clutch.
It tends not to happen instantly, but if it is on the way out it will get worse and worse, so just gauge when it is starting to be a problem (ie, can't accelerate quickly without it slipping).
Cost-wise, it can be a bit of a pain on FWD car because it is on one end of the engine and can mean the engine needs to be jacked up or come partway out. I'd be budgeting £500 or so just in case...
And if it is difficult to change gear, it could simply either be a cable adjustment issue, or hydraulic problem. Not sure which the 206 uses.
But just because these people are not mechanics, doesnt mean they arent mechanically minded. I am not a mechanic per-se, but have rebuilt more cars and engines etc than many people who might proclaim to be a mechanic.
Continuing to drive on can can only lead to potentially more damage if you are having to force gears. You dont want to be ending up with a gearbox repair bill too.
So best advice is to find a local honest mechanic and have them take a look.
thanks for the replies the bite is very high as its always been for the last 3 months ive had it
ill do the handbreak test when i go out init next
ive never had a problem accelerating
ive spoken to the body repair guy who said its not urgent just needs to be kept an eye on his offerd to buy the clutch for me at trade price and knows a garage that will fit it he said altogether around £200 he said just loook out for the high revs at low speeds first
ill do the handbreak test when i go out init next
ive never had a problem accelerating
ive spoken to the body repair guy who said its not urgent just needs to be kept an eye on his offerd to buy the clutch for me at trade price and knows a garage that will fit it he said altogether around £200 he said just loook out for the high revs at low speeds first
Update your profile with your town or post it here. A local PH member may then volunteer to have a look at it for you.
Failure to engage is more likely to be a clutch cable issue (my 306 has cable so I'm assuming the 206 is also) I think they auto adjust but if the cable is stretched it may no longer have adjustment left and needs replacing. Replacement is quite a simple job.
Steve
Failure to engage is more likely to be a clutch cable issue (my 306 has cable so I'm assuming the 206 is also) I think they auto adjust but if the cable is stretched it may no longer have adjustment left and needs replacing. Replacement is quite a simple job.
Steve
Edited by Steve_D on Sunday 20th March 07:38
lauraberwick said:
updated my area ive tried the putting into first gear and tried to gently pull away the car moves forward a tiny bit and then stalls x
generally to check for clutch ability to grip, you would try and pull away in a higher gear, say 4th or 5th.But even then, that is only a test for ability to grip, it still doesnt mean the clutches operation is perfect.
keeping things simple. Can you drive perfectly normally, and select gears etc at all times with no problems ?
Does the biting point feel normal, and pedal feel normal under foot ?
If you answer yes to those, chances are it is fine. If you answer no to any, then maybe there is a problem.
If you google "gearbox specialist stoke on trent" you'll find three specialists come up. Take it to all three and ask them their opinion before you trust this bodywork chappie.
Not unheard of for people to spin girls (and blokes) a line in order to get themselves or their mates easy work.
In forty four years of motoring I don't think I've ever had a clutch go.
Not unheard of for people to spin girls (and blokes) a line in order to get themselves or their mates easy work.
In forty four years of motoring I don't think I've ever had a clutch go.
ColinM50 said:
If you google "gearbox specialist stoke on trent" you'll find three specialists come up. Take it to all three and ask them their opinion before you trust this bodywork chappie.
Not unheard of for people to spin girls (and blokes) a line in order to get themselves or their mates easy work.
In forty four years of motoring I don't think I've ever had a clutch go.
In 20 years of motoring, Ive seen many many clutches go. Ive seen people destroy a brand new clutch in a matter of days, and ive seen others with over 300k on the original clutch.Not unheard of for people to spin girls (and blokes) a line in order to get themselves or their mates easy work.
In forty four years of motoring I don't think I've ever had a clutch go.
But very true, Ive heard of garages doing some unbelievable things to scam their customers into paying for work.
One incredible one was a perfectly good M3 that developed a missfire when it was in for a service. And the garage told the owner it needed a head gasket.
Fortunately the owner wasnt that dumb, and took the car away.
The garage had swapped two of the coil packs around so the car was only running on 4 cylinders.
It almost defied belief that anywhere would do such a thing. And I'm sure it wasnt the first time they tried !
But I dont think this bodyshop is actually recommending where to go, they are just saying it needs done.
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