Stainless or alloy exhaust guard tray
Stainless or alloy exhaust guard tray
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Tyre Tread

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10,696 posts

247 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Anyone thought about having some made?

Pupp

13,022 posts

303 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Just be aware it is functionally structural in terms of chassis stiffness/bracing apparently

Tyre Tread

Original Poster:

10,696 posts

247 months

Monday 21st March 2011
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Pupp said:
Just be aware it is functionally structural in terms of chassis stiffness/bracing apparently
Can't be much less stiffening than the corroding piece of tin can it?

Thanks for the heads up though as I hadn't considered it.



Pupp

13,022 posts

303 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Tyre Tread said:
Can't be much less stiffening than the corroding piece of tin can it?
All things are relative; how stiff are the corroding pram steel tubes the chassis is made from? hehe

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,469 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Pupp said:
Just be aware it is functionally structural in terms of chassis stiffness/bracing apparently
Do you mean the exhaust?

I would naively assume that the exhaust needs to move about with the engine, hence couldn't be rigidly attached to the car's structure.

I'd be interested in some kind of protection against grounding. I've scraped it a couple of times recently, and it's definitely the exhaust that takes the brunt. Are the exhaust and its mountings reasonably tough, or is significant damage likely to occur due to grounding?

markreilly

795 posts

203 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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i have a flap welded on to the exhaust in front of the lowest point of the exhaust which takes the rubbs rather than the exhaust itself

Tyre Tread

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10,696 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Pupp said:
All things are relative; how stiff are the corroding pram steel tubes the chassis is made from? hehe
:ROFL: Good point. Probably not as stiff as I'd like to believe.

Ignorance is bliss.

Tyre Tread

Original Poster:

10,696 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Do you mean the exhaust?

I would naively assume that the exhaust needs to move about with the engine, hence couldn't be rigidly attached to the car's structure.

I'd be interested in some kind of protection against grounding. I've scraped it a couple of times recently, and it's definitely the exhaust that takes the brunt. Are the exhaust and its mountings reasonably tough, or is significant damage likely to occur due to grounding?
Not the exhaust, but there is a plate that's about 35cm X 58cm that covers the expansion box and is held in place by six bolts. It stiffens the chassis (apparently smile ) and supports the exhaust.

Its unlikely (but possible) that your exhaust is what's grounding. The parts under mine that are nice and shiny are the ends of the bolts for the front anti roll bar.

Pupp

13,022 posts

303 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Do you mean the exhaust?

I would naively assume that the exhaust needs to move about with the engine, hence couldn't be rigidly attached to the car's structure.

I'd be interested in some kind of protection against grounding. I've scraped it a couple of times recently, and it's definitely the exhaust that takes the brunt. Are the exhaust and its mountings reasonably tough, or is significant damage likely to occur due to grounding?
Not the exhaust itself but the tray that bridges the chassis rails with the silencer box above. The exhaust is flexibly mounted, includinmg to this tray and can/does take a surprising amount of abuse reasonably happily

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,469 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Tyre Tread said:
Not the exhaust, but there is a plate that's about 35cm X 58cm that covers the expansion box and is held in place by six bolts. It stiffens the chassis (apparently smile ) and supports the exhaust.
Ah, yes - I know the bit you mean. It's got two fairly large circular holes cut into it, if I remember rightly.

I'm finding that the exhaust can strike just forward from that plate - evidenced by fresh shiny metal! It generally happens if I go too fast over an undulating road: as the back wheels reach the bottom of a dip and the suspension compresses, the exhaust further forwards grounds on the next "peak" of the undulation, particularly if the road also has a pronounced camber across its width. It could be worse; at least it's not the sump!

SILICONE KID

14,997 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I recently had a new flexible pipe welded on ,it seems to be the most vulnerable part of the exhaust.What we did is cut a piece of flexible pipe,cut it across the length and fitted it over the top to protect the one welded to the exhaust and secured it with steal ties.

haircutmike

22,511 posts

235 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Ah, yes - I know the bit you mean. It's got two fairly large circular holes cut into it, if I remember rightly.

I'm finding that the exhaust can strike just forward from that plate - evidenced by fresh shiny metal! It generally happens if I go too fast over an undulating road: as the back wheels reach the bottom of a dip and the suspension compresses, the exhaust further forwards grounds on the next "peak" of the undulation, particularly if the road also has a pronounced camber across its width. It could be worse; at least it's not the sump!
Two points.

If you have adjustable suspension, make sure your ride height is set correctly.

The standard springs are surprisingly soft, (for their limited travel).
A change to +20% stronger springs makes a world of differance, no more bottoming out!

MPoxon

5,329 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I would be interested in a Stainless or alloy tray - I assume we are talking about the thing with the two circular holes cut into it?



A yes for the record my exhaust grounds out just before the tray judging by the scrape marks.

carsy

3,019 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Id certainly be interested in a nice stainless one.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,469 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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How about an F1-style plank of wood? smile

Tyre Tread

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10,696 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Quinny said:
I made my own from some high grade kitchen Stainless.... Bought from a scrappy for a few ££smilesmile



I did think about that but then wondered if anyone was already selling them.

andy-w

1,987 posts

257 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Never quite understood why it has got folded edges or the holes cut in - especially the sides running along the chassis box section...

can maybe understand a bit more strength going across the chassis legs....


SILICONE KID

14,997 posts

262 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I made my own from some high grade kitchen Stainless.... Bought from a scrappy for a few ££




Yes you can take every thing with you.including the kitchen sink!laugh



Edited by SILICONE KID on Tuesday 22 March 19:18

Marty V8

578 posts

217 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Call me thick, but I cant see how this stiffens or braces the chassis. There is however, a brace behind the gearbox bellhousing which I could believe does this job, but the exhaust plate is a wobbly tea tray type of affair that just supports the exhaust centre box...isnt it? The only thing it might do is to act in tension to stop the bottom main chassis sections from splaying apart, but is it really man enough for this?

Photo of brace bar fitted to chassis behind gearbox attached. You can see it has some thickness to the section unlike the exhaust tray.

There has however been some thought put into the exhaust tray mounting - by varying the number and placement of washers between it and the chassis, you can alter the height of the rear exhaust tips. Clever and simple.


Tyre Tread

Original Poster:

10,696 posts

247 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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It has 6 decent size bolts holding it to the chassis so it makes sense.

Have you ever noticed how much a piece of hardboard backing stiffens up a bookcase.