reccomend me a GOOD polish/wax
reccomend me a GOOD polish/wax
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Phooey

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13,414 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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What would you guys do with a brand new car? I was thinking just buy some Swissvax and give it a polish. Car is Carrara white.

Cheers

p.s. any other polish/wax better than swissvax?

cableguy

2,287 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Dodo Juice's Diamond White is superb and specially formulated for white & lighter coloured paint. wink

http://www.dodojuice.com/diamond-white-carnauba-ca...

I have some Panel Pots in stock, these will be enough to do your car 3-4 times comfortably. Twice yearly means £5.95 + postage will give you two years worth of wax. biggrin

C.

mneame

1,486 posts

232 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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My polish of choice is Menzerna. Will you be working by hand or machine? Menz RD3.02 will work well by either.

Depending on your budget any of the Dodo waxes will be superb. You don't just have to go for the ones that are designed for lighter colours. I find Purple Haze gives a great warm tone to lighter colours. The standard range are priced at £30 - £35. If you've got £60 to £100 to spend on a wax you won't go wrong twith Dodo Super Natural. £60 pot is a plastic tub the higher priced version comes in a tasty wooden pot that looks great and then when you've run out you can have it refilled for the cost of the plastic pot version.

I've got SN on my car and it's still beading after 6+ months.

belleair302

6,995 posts

228 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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I hope that you are aware that polish and wax are two completely different stages of a decent detail!! Polish is used to bring paint back from a worn or damaged state and is abrasive. Wax is a final stage product which will protect the clearcoat and finish of your car.

Do you have any intention of putting a protective film across any of the exposed areas of your car?

Waxes vary hugely in price and the Dodo Juice range are good value but there are many better waxes but how much are you willing to spend and how serious are you about waxing your car?

Phooey

Original Poster:

13,414 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Thanks for the replies.

I do not intend to put any protective film on the car. I just want a high shine from something relatively easy to apply by hand which will give results. Budget is flexible, i would happily pay £100+ if this buys a better product. I already have a foam lance which attaches to my power washer, and will wash the car with a wool mitt and 2 bucket method.

So, budget as above - what's the best!? thumbup

waxaholic

374 posts

220 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Jeffs werkstatt acrylic kit is very easy to use and very good on white,
i get my werkstat products from www.polishedbliss.co.uk

paddyhasneeds

62,878 posts

231 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Phooey said:
So, budget as above - what's the best!? thumbup
I don't think you need to spend £100 quite honestly. Well, I'll put it another way, depending what kit you already have, £20 spent on a good wax/sealant and £80 spent on applicators, cloths, and accessories is a better idea than £100 spent solely on a wax.

So, I'll throw gtechniq C2 or Collinite 915 into the mix - £15 for either, the car will look fantastic, and you won't need to re-apply for a good few months.

matt will

58 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Swissvax waxes are the best waxes out there for useability (on and off) and outstrip the competition frankly when talking about waxes (see here http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.p... for the biggest wax test I've seen.

I'd recommend Swissvax Shield, this is still a 40% Carnuaba wax so will give 3 months plus durability easily and has a PTFE content to repel dirt, very nice on white and gives tough protection against bird bombs etc. Comes in around your budget also.

Phooey

Original Poster:

13,414 posts

190 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Again - thanks for the replies. Obviously there are plenty of waxes more than capable of giving a good shine then. I'm tempted to go with Swissvax, only because when i had my last car detailed - this is what was used - and it looked superb. It also *looked* quite easy to apply and finish.

I've just googled Swissvax products and came across this - http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/swissvax-d...yikesyikesyikes

matt will

58 posts

182 months

Tuesday 22nd March 2011
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Divine is mixed for your particular car. Most of us Swissvax detailers will carry it or Crystal Rock as their top end wax.
A 200ml pot of Shield will give you 25 to 30 coats easily, remember thin is good. £3.50 a coat is good value. Especially if you think at 30 coats it will last 6 or 7 years smile

Phooey

Original Poster:

13,414 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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matt will said:
Divine is mixed for your particular car. Most of us Swissvax detailers will carry it or Crystal Rock as their top end wax.
A 200ml pot of Shield will give you 25 to 30 coats easily, remember thin is good. £3.50 a coat is good value. Especially if you think at 30 coats it will last 6 or 7 years smile
Thanks matt. So on a brand new car, can i literally just wash the car first with snowfoam. Dry it, and then apply the Shield thinly and buff/wipe off. All in probably 2-3 hours work i guess? I'm trying to avoid claying the car - especially if it doesn't need it.

Ta

Magic919

14,126 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I'd clay the car, that's how you'll find out if it needs it. Then polish to get a decent finish. Then wax to protect the finish.

gsd2000

11,515 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Finish kare 2180, topped with finish kare 1000p

matt will

58 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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If you want to cut your maintenance time down yes. Waxes are happy to sit on top of anything without much drama, sealants on the other hand prefer clean surfaces to give their best. You are best placed to see if the car needs to be clayed or not, does it feel rough after washing? If not wash it, dry it, wax it, DRIVE IT. Worry about claying and going the whole hog later after you've had 6 months to thrash around in it. Enjoy

Phooey

Original Poster:

13,414 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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matt will said:
Worry about claying and going the whole hog later after you've had 6 months to thrash around in it. Enjoy
That sounds goo to me mate thanks smile



Although it's a new car, it may arrive with 'swirls' in the paintwork? What do i need to do then?


Appreciate the advice mate

PJ S

10,842 posts

248 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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matt will said:
Swissvax waxes are the best waxes out there for useability (on and off) and outstrip the competition frankly when talking about waxes (see here http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.p... for the biggest wax test I've seen.

I'd recommend Swissvax Shield, this is still a 40% Carnuaba wax so will give 3 months plus durability easily and has a PTFE content to repel dirt, very nice on white and gives tough protection against bird bombs etc. Comes in around your budget also.
I really wouldn't quote PTFE as having a function in car care products, Matt - especially if you understood how it's applied to make non-stick products!
It's marketing by association - a very dodgy practice, and heavily frowned upon in many sectors.

And carnauba content percentages are pointless other than in a game of Top Trumps, since a wax is more than just its carnauba amount.

Edited by PJ S on Friday 1st April 22:14

gsd2000

11,515 posts

204 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Phooey said:
That sounds goo to me mate thanks smile

Although it's a new car, it may arrive with 'swirls' in the paintwork? What do i need to do then?


Appreciate the advice mate
If working by hand you could mask the swirls with some autoglym super resin polish, then top with either extra gloss protection or a wax.

The super resin and extra gloss method has been proven to be durable, around 3 months with 2-3 coats applied correctly. It is also affordable as its comes under the halfords 3 for 2 offer they normally have on

Phooey

Original Poster:

13,414 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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gsd2000 said:
If working by hand you could mask the swirls with some autoglym super resin polish, then top with either extra gloss protection or a wax.

The super resin and extra gloss method has been proven to be durable, around 3 months with 2-3 coats applied correctly. It is also affordable as its comes under the halfords 3 for 2 offer they normally have on
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Phooey

Original Poster:

13,414 posts

190 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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PJ S said:
And carnauba content percentages are pointless other than in a game of Top Trumps, since a wax is more than just it's carnauba amount.
Interesting. Which wax would you recommend?

PJ S

10,842 posts

248 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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On white, like silver, the use of a sealant tends to be favoured over wax.
If you must use a wax, there's so many now, it's really a case of suck it and see.
R222 is a good one, but poor longevity.
Dodo Juice have a host to choose from depending on budget.
Raceglaze are good too.
Meguiar's #16 is often overlooked because it's at the cheap end of the price spectrum.
Bilt Hamber Finis Wax (hard) or Hydra (liquid)
Wolfgang, Blackfire, Finish Kare, Clearkote (liquid), Optimum Wax (trigger spray), and on it goes.

On the sealant front - Zaino Z2 (with ZFX) or Z5 (ZFX'd), Optimum OptiSeal (spray, wipe, walk away) and Duragloss are the principle players. To that you can add Prima and Jeff's, as valid contenders.
Nanolex, CQuartz, GTechniq C2 are starting to make their presence felt too.

Bottom line, grab something because the price & research results grab you, and if not impressed flog it on DW, and get something else.

Edited by PJ S on Wednesday 23 March 22:45