Another child seat query

[Phooey]

2011 gen2 997 - No ISOFIX mountings in the rear seats. Apart from the Porsche child seat (which is ISOFIX unfortunately?) can anyone recommend a child seat that is a 997 fitment for the *rear* seats. Daughter is 30 months old. Can't seem to find anything on Google, so hoping someone who has used/got a secure fitting seat can recommend one.

The Porsche seat in the catalogue states it is ISOFIX. Would you be able to use the rear seat belt to secure it instead of ISOFIX do you think? http://www22.porsche.com/all/media/flash/tequipmen...

Ta

[Zip106]

I used a Britax seat ( can't remember which one) for my lad.
Held in fine with just the seatbelt, but I found it fitted much better with the seat back and squab removed.
Squab is just held in with Velcro and the seat back is less than 5 mins to remove with one bolt to undo.

It's easier now he only needs a booster

[Phooey]

Is that the way to do it then Zip - remove the seat pads?

[Zip106]

It worked well for the seat I had.
I only needed it for a couple of months anyway.
Unless you buy the Porsche seat I guess there aren't many that will fit 100%.

My sons 5 now and really doesn't even need a booster in the back, apart from the legalities.

[Phooey]

Mmmmmm, might have to price up the Porsche jobbie then.

[Keggers]

There is a 5 page article about this in last month's Total 911 (issue 72). It ends up recommending the Mamas & Papas Protec (which is what I have in my 996), Recaro Young Sport and Maxi Cosi Priory SPS.

Edited by Keggers on Tuesday 22 March 21:55

[sbrewster]

I have a Maxi Cosi Tobi in my gen 2 997.

Removed rear seat pad but left seat back in place. It's tight but it fits.

My boy is only 14 months, so not tall enough for his legs to hang over the edge. So the mrs has to have the seat quite far forward to give him room for his feet. Hopefully when he's grown a bit he will be able to bend his legs at the knee and let them hang down so we can put the passenger seat back a couple of notches.

Mrs has the mamas and papas pro tec in her car. The maxi Cosi is a much better seat. Feels moire sturdy, straps/belts are easier to loosen/tighten and buckle works better.

In short I recommend it.

[Phooey]

Thanks for the recommendations

[Phooey]

Keggers said:

There is a 5 page article about this in last month's Total 911 (issue 72). It ends up recommending the Mamas & Papas Protec (which is what I have in my 996), Recaro Young Sport and Maxi Cosi Priory SPS.

Edited by Keggers on Tuesday 22 March 21:55

Thanks Greg. Does the article say which is the preferred child seat for the 997/997gen2? Or which one fits best?

Thanks mate
Phooey

[Manks]

Phooey

You do realise that these cannot be fitted in the driver's seat, don't you?

You might be better off with a cushion.

[Obiwonkeyblokey]

without starting another thread on the subject. Ive been looking at 997s including the GTS but really I want a GT3. however i need to get a kiddyseat in the back.

Ive seen a few 997 GT3 comfort specs without the cages such as this one.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2341945.htm

do you know if you can retrofit rear belts or isofix mountings to these. Im not talking about a bodge job, more along the lines of are the mountings for belts already in place but unused? I dont heed the seats just the belts to hold a car seat in position.

thanks

[Phooey]

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[Phooey]

Obiwonkeyblokey said:

without starting another thread on the subject. Ive been looking at 997s including the GTS but really I want a GT3. however i need to get a kiddyseat in the back.

Ive seen a few 997 GT3 comfort specs without the cages such as this one.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2341945.htm

do you know if you can retrofit rear belts or isofix mountings to these. Im not talking about a bodge job, more along the lines of are the mountings for belts already in place but unused? I dont heed the seats just the belts to hold a car seat in position.

thanks

Yes it can be (and has been) done on the gen1 GT3. It is not possible on the gen2 though. From memory, i think JZM fitted the necessary bits to a gen1 for a reasonable amount of ££'s. Be sure to have it MOT tested and approved though, and tell your insurers!

[disco1]

Hi guys,
Sorry to jump in. I too saw that article in the Porsche mag recommending child seats which got me thinking of 911s. I've always thought (or was led to believe by family estate/4x4 lovers) 996/997s were no good for karting kids about. Do you use your 911s regularly for this purpose? Build quality is legendry for a sports car but what about as a daily hack/school runs?

I've always been a 911 fancier (996 C4S ) but having 2 kids (currently using boosters in back of A4 cabrio) has put me off.

Please tell me they're ok for kids/family chores? I don't care about load space as we only ever grab a few bags of shopping.

[Obiwonkeyblokey]

Ive just spokent o a very helpful chap at JZM who has confirmed that they can retrofit belts to gen 1 and 2 997.

made my day - time to go shopping.

[Phooey]

Obiwonkeyblokey said:

Ive just spokent o a very helpful chap at JZM who has confirmed that they can retrofit belts to gen 1 and 2 997.

made my day - time to go shopping.

It's not a big job. I didn't think it was possible on the gen2 though?

[Manks]

disco1 said:

Please tell me they're ok for kids/family chores? I don't care about load space as we only ever grab a few bags of shopping.

They are OK... ish. But you'll swear whilst trying to get the kids in the back, then they will relentlessly kick and scuff the backs of the sport seats until they are scratched.

The doors are long so unless you get a parent and child space at the supermarket it's a pain. Then of course someone will open a door on it or wheel a trolley into it.

No, you have misunderstood the purpose of a 911. The function of a 911 is that you pretend for several weeks that you are going to buy a 2-seat sports car and talk about it a lot to your wife. She will assume that you are having a mid-life crisis and will become concerned that you will shortly be interfering with your secretary or other woman half your age. You assure her regularly that you are not, but make sure you buy new underwear and some fashionable jeans.

Then, after several weeks of this pretence you pitch up one day with a 911 brochure and sigh, "look, I really want a sports car but I simply couldn't enjoy it without the family. So I intend to abandon all plans for a silly 2-seater vehicle and will limit myself to a modest 911 with rear seats and plenty of front luggage space for weekends away with you, darling".

Your wife will immediately agree and probably open her Post Office account to find you the deposit.

Once delivered you find any excuse to not let the family anywhere near the car.

The 911, a very misunderstood vehicle.

[disco1]

Manks said:

They are OK... ish. But you'll swear whilst trying to get the kids in the back, then they will relentlessly kick and scuff the backs of the sport seats until they are scratched.

The doors are long so unless you get a parent and child space at the supermarket it's a pain. Then of course someone will open a door on it or wheel a trolley into it.

No, you have misunderstood the purpose of a 911. The function of a 911 is that you pretend for several weeks that you are going to buy a 2-seat sports car and talk about it a lot to your wife. She will assume that you are having a mid-life crisis and will become concerned that you will shortly be interfering with your secretary or other woman half your age. You assure her regularly that you are not, but make sure you buy new underwear and some fashionable jeans.

Then, after several weeks of this pretence you pitch up one day with a 911 brochure and sigh, "look, I really want a sports car but I simply couldn't enjoy it without the family. So I intend to abandon all plans for a silly 2-seater vehicle and will limit myself to a modest 911 with rear seats and plenty of front luggage space for weekends away with you, darling".

Your wife will immediately agree and probably open her Post Office account to find you the deposit.

Once delivered you find any excuse to not let the family anywhere near the car.

The 911, a very misunderstood vehicle.

OK, new question:

Middle age is creeping up on me and want to know if in between showing off in it the missus could cart kids to school and grab shopping in it? I've got them used to cramp rear seats in the A4 cabrio, is a 996 a step too far?

[Manks]

disco1 said:

OK, new question:

Middle age is creeping up on me and want to know if in between showing off in it the missus could cart kids to school and grab shopping in it? I've got them used to cramp rear seats in the A4 cabrio, is a 996 a step too far?

Oh heavens, you really don't get it do you.

You don't want Mrs Disco1 anywhere near it. The 911 is a man's car, it says so in section 1 of the user manual: Der 911 ist ein blokenwagen und nicht fur der wifen.

She will not be able to drive it properly and will let the children soil it with sticky sweets, mucus and dog terd which they have thoughtfully trodden from their shoes to the carpet.

Furthermore if the secretary sees Mrs Disco driving the car in which you were, the previous evening, groping HER you can forget all about any extra-marital nooky over the photocopier.

[Obiwonkeyblokey]

Phooey said:

Obiwonkeyblokey said:

Ive just spoken to a very helpful chap at JZM who has confirmed that they can retrofit belts to gen 1 and 2 997.

made my day - time to go shopping.

It's not a big job. I didn't think it was possible on the gen2 though?

according to JZM there is only a very minor difference between gen1 and gen 11, that being there is a small metal plate across the body shell where the hole to mount the belts is. Its been spotwelded in place on the Gen11 and the hole already exists in the GEN1. they can just drill through it. the belts themselves are orginal porsche items mounted in exactly the same way as they would be in a Carrera.