mondeo st tdci 155 or vectra sri cdti 150
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I'd go for the Mondeo.
They have plenty of well documented potential problems, but to be fair they are similar to most other modern diesels.
Dual Mass flywheels can fail, if this happens most people replace with single.
Injectors are a circa £800 failure, but aren't a regular problem. My ST TDCI has 93k (I owned from 5k) when I pxed it, and I didn't have any of these problems.
The only issue I did have was a couple of EGR valves, they seem to last 30-40k. I think it was about £115 for a new one (first one was under warranty). Oh, and as I pxed it, it was in need of a new wheel bearing.
I would strongly recommend one though. The issues above are no worse than other modern diesel, and the way they drive is very impressive for a family car. It was genuinely fun to drive down a good road. If you can find one with recaros (not standard on the diesel) they are some of the best seats I've had in any of my cars.
They have plenty of well documented potential problems, but to be fair they are similar to most other modern diesels.
Dual Mass flywheels can fail, if this happens most people replace with single.
Injectors are a circa £800 failure, but aren't a regular problem. My ST TDCI has 93k (I owned from 5k) when I pxed it, and I didn't have any of these problems.
The only issue I did have was a couple of EGR valves, they seem to last 30-40k. I think it was about £115 for a new one (first one was under warranty). Oh, and as I pxed it, it was in need of a new wheel bearing.
I would strongly recommend one though. The issues above are no worse than other modern diesel, and the way they drive is very impressive for a family car. It was genuinely fun to drive down a good road. If you can find one with recaros (not standard on the diesel) they are some of the best seats I've had in any of my cars.
Vectra is you want wobbly handling, and a Fiat engine cheapened so much by GM so it'll undoubtedly have EGR and inlet manifold failures. However, with a bit of suspension tweaking, a remap, and a new inlet manifold, the Vectra is a very good car. A decent remap will see 200hp and 310lb-ft of torque.
Mondeo is much better driving than a standard Vectra, and the 2.2TDCI can be remapped up towards the 200hp mark too, though I'm not convinced the clutch or flywheel as as durable as the GM units when remapped.
Honestly, I'd have either, just get a low miles one, or go for either if they've had the clutch/DMF replaced, and the Vectra if the manifold has been done.
Mondeo is much better driving than a standard Vectra, and the 2.2TDCI can be remapped up towards the 200hp mark too, though I'm not convinced the clutch or flywheel as as durable as the GM units when remapped.
Honestly, I'd have either, just get a low miles one, or go for either if they've had the clutch/DMF replaced, and the Vectra if the manifold has been done.
Picked up a 2006 Mondeo Ghia TDCi Friday and went to visit nan in Norfolk yesterday, which was a 250 mile round trip across country lanes and motorway. Great car and handles well for a big motor. For the price point I dont know how you could beat it.
They have some issues as already mentioned, however, personally I fold these into my budget...
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They have some issues as already mentioned, however, personally I fold these into my budget...
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