Runaround that doesn't run-a-round!
Runaround that doesn't run-a-round!
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missy-a-k

Original Poster:

403 posts

221 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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'scuse me while I have a little moan.

I bought a car from a dealer for trade in of my car(value of £1000) plus £500 cash while I save up for something a little more exciting. I did all the usual checks, had someone check over the service history, Hpi, etc etc. It was only intended to last me around a year and has so far lasted me 4 weeks and 6 days.

Oh and 6 days OUT of the dealers warranty

The power steering went on it 3 weeks ago. The pump is knackered. So I had to get towed, it's now been sat at the garage for three weeks due to a backlog on the pump that it needs. A generation 1 electric pump, the most expensive, and elusive of all the pumps on that model.

My options are

a) buy a new pump and rack at around £700 + labour

b) buy one that has been sourced down south as excess stock for £440 + labour.

c) wait until April 9th for a pump the garage has on order that may or may not be the right one as no-one seems to know for sure! £300 odd + labour worst case it doesn't fit and I'm back to square one with a total of 6 weeks without my car.

And I only have £200 cash spare this month.

Can I just take a moment

ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH furious

That's better.

cazzer

8,883 posts

277 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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Get one from a scrapper get a mate to fit it?

trickywoo

14,154 posts

259 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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Buying from a dealer comes with an implied 3 - 6 months warrantee.

Its probably worth going back to the dealer and asking them nicely to fix it.

Its slightly complicated in the low price you seem to have paid but its still worth a go.

Was your trade in really only worth £1,000?

missy-a-k

Original Poster:

403 posts

221 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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cazzer said:
Get one from a scrapper get a mate to fit it?
Aren't any of this specific pump apparently. I've been ringing around for two weeks.... used numerous used parts websites, quote engines etc....they just don't seem to exist!

missy-a-k

Original Poster:

403 posts

221 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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trickywoo said:
Buying from a dealer comes with an implied 3 - 6 months warrantee.

Its probably worth going back to the dealer and asking them nicely to fix it.

Its slightly complicated in the low price you seem to have paid but its still worth a go.

Was your trade in really only worht £1,000?
He's conveniently closed at the moment, so he's either done a runner or genuinely gone somewhere...and yes it was high mileage so low trade in price!

cazzer

8,883 posts

277 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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missy-a-k said:
Aren't any of this specific pump apparently. I've been ringing around for two weeks.... used numerous used parts websites, quote engines etc....they just don't seem to exist!
What car is it?

missy-a-k

Original Poster:

403 posts

221 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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cazzer said:
What car is it?
Astra 1.8 CD 1999, it's a Generation 1 pump.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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trickywoo said:
Buying from a dealer comes with an implied 3 - 6 months warrantee.

Its probably worth going back to the dealer and asking them nicely to fix it.

Its slightly complicated in the low price you seem to have paid but its still worth a go.

Was your trade in really only worth £1,000?
This.
But sometimes they only cover gearbox and engine etc.
Not sure what this would come under.

cazzer

8,883 posts

277 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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missy-a-k said:
cazzer said:
What car is it?
Astra 1.8 CD 1999, it's a Generation 1 pump.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vauxhall-Astra-1-8-CDX-1999-...

Right part number?

missy-a-k

Original Poster:

403 posts

221 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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cazzer said:
Seen that nope it's not frown

sday12

5,067 posts

240 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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Sorry, just can't get this guy out of my head


RRRRRRRRRRRunaround NOWWWWWWW!

DuncanM

7,460 posts

308 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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Could you not drive it as it is and just live with it?

It's only worth around 1k so spending loads fixing it is madness.

Old cars are only worth buying and using in a bangernomics kinda way. Unless you really love it?

Your arms will soon toughen up smile.

Duncan

rallycross

13,749 posts

266 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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you should be able to get a 2nd hand pump how hard have you tried to find one?
have you tried something like find a a part 24/7?

A good place to get some help is the vauxhall owners forum there are some really knowledgable people on there

http://www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk/forum.php



Or try to find a good local small garage ie one that is used to fixing cheap/older cars (ie fix not replace everything) they will help you out with this.

worst case would be a recon place there are lots of them
eg
http://www.power-steering.co.uk/power-steering-pum...


Edited by rallycross on Friday 25th March 16:49


Edited by rallycross on Friday 25th March 17:30

dave9

579 posts

191 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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you don't need powersteering i don't think - can't you just go without the power steering?

205gti's and classic porsches don't have power steering !!

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

221 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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dave9 said:
you don't need powersteering i don't think - can't you just go without the power steering?

205gti's and classic porsches don't have power steering !!
This, what would you have done in the 70s/80s, get on with driving, PAS is for girls!!!


nicebutdim

37 posts

188 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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I beleve you can fit a gen2 motor if you replace the pipes to the rack as they route differently and vauxhall sell a conversion multi plug for the wiring side ???

Hitler Hadrump

1,750 posts

202 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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dave9 said:
you don't need powersteering i don't think - can't you just go without the power steering?

205gti's and classic porsches don't have power steering !!
I haven't driven an Astra with or without PAS so I don't know. But on some of these modern cars where the whole range has it, the steering is crazy heavy without.

missy-a-k

Original Poster:

403 posts

221 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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Erm, I'm a 7 1/2 stone female the chance of me driving it without power-steering is about as much chance as me pulling a crane for a mile! I did try believe me I'm not a fluffy pink girlie girl & I do drive 3.5 tonners occasionally so I'm not shy of my vehicles!

And thanks for the links and suggestions have been on the phone to the garage who I bought it off and he's half-willing to help me out r.e sourcing the part and possibly burdening some of the cost so that's very good of him really!

Edited by missy-a-k on Friday 25th March 20:36

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

207 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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missy-a-k said:
Erm, I'm a 7 1/2 stone female the chance of me driving it without power-steering is about as much chance as me pulling a crane for a mile! I did try believe me I'm not a fluffy pink girlie girl & I do drive 3.5 tonners occasionally so I'm not shy of my vehicles!

And thanks for the links and suggestions have been on the phone to the garage who I bought it off and he's half-willing to help me out r.e sourcing the part and possibly burdening some of the cost so that's very good of him really!

Edited by missy-a-k on Friday 25th March 20:36
It is very good of him !

Any car that is 12 years old is going to need work doing to it and have parts fail tongue out

Its unfortunate that its a difficult to find bit that's gone frown


cazzer

8,883 posts

277 months

Friday 25th March 2011
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For the MTFU brigade.

Cars designed without power steering have more turns lock to lock and therefore require less steering effort.
A car designed with power steering requires far more force to steer without PS that a car that never had it.