Clio 182 Track car.
Discussion
Definitely brakes number one priority! My Trophy's brakes are adequate at best, couldn't possibly track it for more than a few laps.
Get a decent exhaust as the standard one is cr@p quality and sounds pretty poor.
Mine has recaros but I'd imagine standard 182 seats won't hold you in that well on track so buckets would be pretty important.
Get a decent exhaust as the standard one is cr@p quality and sounds pretty poor.
Mine has recaros but I'd imagine standard 182 seats won't hold you in that well on track so buckets would be pretty important.
I wouldn't bother looking into baffled sumps, the cup racers didnt run one and they were on slicks.
You might want to look at some mounts. Powerflex dogbone mount is a definate, there are uprated engine/gearbox mounts also available.
Race battery under the passenger seat allows a v6/ph1 airbox to run straight off the throttle body.
Brakes wise Brembo HC disks and Ferodo ds2500's are the most popular combination with some decent lines and fluid.
Look in the project on Cliosport, theres at loads of track cars and some full on race cars in there.
You might want to look at some mounts. Powerflex dogbone mount is a definate, there are uprated engine/gearbox mounts also available.
Race battery under the passenger seat allows a v6/ph1 airbox to run straight off the throttle body.
Brakes wise Brembo HC disks and Ferodo ds2500's are the most popular combination with some decent lines and fluid.
Look in the project on Cliosport, theres at loads of track cars and some full on race cars in there.
Think you have pretty much covered it apart from engine and gbox mounts. The cup racers used solid mounts that were quite different to the roadcar set up.
Good to see you have realised theres no point in any major engine mods. The cost per bhp of tuning them is not healthy!
All you really need for a track 182 is good tyres, less weight and better brakes. If you have the money for coilovers go for it though.
Good to see you have realised theres no point in any major engine mods. The cost per bhp of tuning them is not healthy!
All you really need for a track 182 is good tyres, less weight and better brakes. If you have the money for coilovers go for it though.
I agree with Matt, there are a few other tuners and parts retailers out there. I have a Clio phase 1 track toy and wouldn't take it to K-Tec for anything tuning/mapping related.
Get yourself onto www.cliosport.net There are some very knowledgable people on there and a lot of track focused Clios to get ideas from.
Whoever mentioned baffled sumps, they aren't needed. Clio cup racers don't even run them. The best way to get the most from your Clio is to add lightness, power is not the first place to start. Get yourself some decent coilovers, track rubber, uprated brakes and (especially if you are tall) some decent bucket seats and you are pretty much good to go.
Get yourself onto www.cliosport.net There are some very knowledgable people on there and a lot of track focused Clios to get ideas from.
Whoever mentioned baffled sumps, they aren't needed. Clio cup racers don't even run them. The best way to get the most from your Clio is to add lightness, power is not the first place to start. Get yourself some decent coilovers, track rubber, uprated brakes and (especially if you are tall) some decent bucket seats and you are pretty much good to go.
ChrisMCoupe said:
I agree with Matt, there are a few other tuners and parts retailers out there. I have a Clio phase 1 track toy and wouldn't take it to K-Tec for anything tuning/mapping related.
Get yourself onto www.cliosport.net There are some very knowledgable people on there and a lot of track focused Clios to get ideas from.
Whoever mentioned baffled sumps, they aren't needed. Clio cup racers don't even run them. The best way to get the most from your Clio is to add lightness, power is not the first place to start. Get yourself some decent coilovers, track rubber, uprated brakes and (especially if you are tall) some decent bucket seats and you are pretty much good to go.
BTM Performance are very very good. Fred, the guy that runs it 100% knows his stuff.Get yourself onto www.cliosport.net There are some very knowledgable people on there and a lot of track focused Clios to get ideas from.
Whoever mentioned baffled sumps, they aren't needed. Clio cup racers don't even run them. The best way to get the most from your Clio is to add lightness, power is not the first place to start. Get yourself some decent coilovers, track rubber, uprated brakes and (especially if you are tall) some decent bucket seats and you are pretty much good to go.
wackojacko said:
please enlighten me with the 'others' that offer such an expansive range of tuning parts / options ?
As I'd genuinely like to know.
Re: the parts for your car, my recommendations would be thus, this would create something that is most importantly fun, if you want speed, buy an M3.
Cage (bolt in) - Caged Bolt in, half cage, OMP 6 point is your handy with a welder
Coilovers - i'd be more inclined to go for a Whiteline rear ARB in the 1st instance, i keep telling people and they dont listen, but theres nowt wrong with the standard suspension. Otherwise, FK Konigsports are decent (Koni adjustabe inserts), or Bilstein/AST/H&R/KW depending on budget.
Brakes - standard discs are fine, if you need to change them, use Brembo HC's, which are effectively the same, but marginally cheaper. Standard calipers take a laregr pad than 4 pots, so dont waste your money. Go for DS2500's if you want day to day & decent stopping power, DS3000, PF97 or Carbon Lorraine RC5+ if you want the ultimate, & arent fussed about the brake dust killing your paint.
Exhaust - when the standard one falls off, buy a stainless one. They are pretty much all the same, offer naff all power increase, etc. I have a BTB, but only as it was on there when i bought it, i wouldnt pay £650 for it.
Remove rear seats etc - they weigh naff all, but placebo adds at least 50bhp.
Bucket seats - huge improvement over the standard tat
R888's - make things a little easy in a clio imho, they arent exactly rocket ships, so i run T1R's and have fun making progress.
wackojacko said:
Sorry to hi-jack the thread.
But is there anyother online shop that is as comprehensive as Ktec ?
ok don't let them touch your car but the actual products they sell you'll (well i'd) be fitting myself/yourself so any other problems ?
Kam Racing is fairly good, but the best bet is to join Cliosport (£10), then go in the traders section. You'll find that ktec are quite a bit more expensive than everywhere else. But is there anyother online shop that is as comprehensive as Ktec ?
ok don't let them touch your car but the actual products they sell you'll (well i'd) be fitting myself/yourself so any other problems ?
For example:
Eibach camber bolts from Ktec - £42
Eibach camber bolts from Venom - £18
Eibach Sportline springs from Ktec - £150
Eibach Sportline springs from Kam Racing - £126
However, as you have proven, the general buying public dont tend to go on more specialised forums like Cliosport, hence Ktec make oodles of wonga out of them.
Mind you, even if you still love k-tec after seeing the prices of the competition, as a CS member, you'll get 10-15% off their goods
Hope that helps you save some money!!
Agree on all the kTec related comments, buy from them if you must but don't let them touch your car. Personally, I think a 172 is a far better option for a track toy. The suspension is slightly different (bolt spacing) and as a consequence there are less coilover options for the 182cup (or with cup packs).
Mk2 Clio exhausts have a rust habit, the 172 exhaust is cheaper to replace. A whiteline ARB is essential for a track 172/182, I'm sure sir_dave will be enthusiastic about his!
Mk2 Clio exhausts have a rust habit, the 172 exhaust is cheaper to replace. A whiteline ARB is essential for a track 172/182, I'm sure sir_dave will be enthusiastic about his!
matt1269 said:
He is the only person I let work on my car, and I live around 80 miles away.
Me too, I live 110 miles away.. let me say this, I got some pads of him, and they didn't fit..So he drove down to fit them (free, but i gave him some cash+beer anyways), then drove home again.. No where else would you get that service..When he did my cam belt, we did it together (him + me asking questions and watching), he showed me what was what, and did a few other things at the same time for nothing..
Cannot recommend the man enough.
joe_90 said:
matt1269 said:
He is the only person I let work on my car, and I live around 80 miles away.
Me too, I live 110 miles away.. let me say this, I got some pads of him, and they didn't fit..So he drove down to fit them (free, but i gave him some cash+beer anyways), then drove home again.. No where else would you get that service..When he did my cam belt, we did it together (him + me asking questions and watching), he showed me what was what, and did a few other things at the same time for nothing..
Cannot recommend the man enough.
There are people come down from Scotland to see him. If you're in the south 519 Automotive in Bedford are good too, I know Danny is on here.
Edited by Ian_sUK on Tuesday 29th March 23:21
Thanks guys, we aim to please and stand by everything we do/sell (ie if something isn't upto my standards then i won't sell or fit it)
We specialise in Renaultsport cars, motorsport prep for all cars and also "the flash toys" such as R8's, astons etc (courtesy of my days working for the largest driving experience company in europe)
i live by the simple rule of do the job right or dont bother, it works!
We specialise in Renaultsport cars, motorsport prep for all cars and also "the flash toys" such as R8's, astons etc (courtesy of my days working for the largest driving experience company in europe)
i live by the simple rule of do the job right or dont bother, it works!
Use FredBTM or Mark fish. http://www.markfish.co.uk/
I used Mark and was VERY VERY pleased. Fred was also very helpful with advice and I wouldnt hesitate to use him
I personally spent a relative fortune on modding a 172cup last year. I bought it as a reserve trackcar for friends and family and for me when my other stuff was off road or it was too wet to use my other cars.
It ended up with.... Safety devices cage, coilovers, 4pot brakes, ITBS and omex Ecu, Gripper plated LSD, 3 sets of 15' speedlines with R888's, slicks and wets, Corbeau seats and 5 point harnesses, Renaultsport wheel, rear anti roll bar, fully polybushed, engine mounts, oil cooler etc etc etc.
honestly? was total waste of money!!! It was a fun little cheap car to start with....VERY capable and fun little thing on track!
I turned it into £25k's worth of Clio that REALLY wasnt THAT better.
They are GREAT little CHEAP cars. Start spending loads on them and you miss the point...
my uncle had a mishap with mine and whilst it was being rebuilt I bought another reserve trackcar for almost exactly the same as what the Clio ended up costing me!!!! an ExigeS 240pp
The Exige is on another planet to be honest and so it should be as its alot more money....
So buy all means get a Clio. awesome little things. but dont go spending loads on them.
Brembo HC discs, decent pads and fluid. R888's and Geo set up and thats it. Enjoy the car for what it is.
Personally I'd get a cheaper ligher and simpler 172cup over a 182.
I used Mark and was VERY VERY pleased. Fred was also very helpful with advice and I wouldnt hesitate to use him
I personally spent a relative fortune on modding a 172cup last year. I bought it as a reserve trackcar for friends and family and for me when my other stuff was off road or it was too wet to use my other cars.
It ended up with.... Safety devices cage, coilovers, 4pot brakes, ITBS and omex Ecu, Gripper plated LSD, 3 sets of 15' speedlines with R888's, slicks and wets, Corbeau seats and 5 point harnesses, Renaultsport wheel, rear anti roll bar, fully polybushed, engine mounts, oil cooler etc etc etc.
honestly? was total waste of money!!! It was a fun little cheap car to start with....VERY capable and fun little thing on track!
I turned it into £25k's worth of Clio that REALLY wasnt THAT better.
They are GREAT little CHEAP cars. Start spending loads on them and you miss the point...
my uncle had a mishap with mine and whilst it was being rebuilt I bought another reserve trackcar for almost exactly the same as what the Clio ended up costing me!!!! an ExigeS 240pp
The Exige is on another planet to be honest and so it should be as its alot more money....
So buy all means get a Clio. awesome little things. but dont go spending loads on them.
Brembo HC discs, decent pads and fluid. R888's and Geo set up and thats it. Enjoy the car for what it is.
Personally I'd get a cheaper ligher and simpler 172cup over a 182.
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