Sagaris - battery not holding charge
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Well, crap. Seems that the battery on my Sag isn't holding charge. I charged it for several hours yesterday on the Banner trickle charger (like an Accumate) and this morning it barely cranked over and couldn't start.
So this evening I dug out the old fashioned dumb battery charger and after several hours with it there is still barely a crank.
The fact that it is trying to crank and the doors open and the lights come on means that the battery is not completely pancaked, but it just won't charge.
So I hoiked out the cover in the passenger footwell just like I used to on my Chimaera and..... where the hell is the battery?? How do you access it on the Sagaris? Do you have to take the wheel off or something?
Why is the Sagaris such a retrograde step? The throttle cable requires removal of the airbox (the Chimaera didn't), the battery clearly is harder to get to. Oh, and the Chimaera had a decent heater rather than the frankly basic affair the Sag has.
Anyway, moan over. Can anyone let me know how I access the battery as I think I'm going to have to change it.
So this evening I dug out the old fashioned dumb battery charger and after several hours with it there is still barely a crank.
The fact that it is trying to crank and the doors open and the lights come on means that the battery is not completely pancaked, but it just won't charge.
So I hoiked out the cover in the passenger footwell just like I used to on my Chimaera and..... where the hell is the battery?? How do you access it on the Sagaris? Do you have to take the wheel off or something?
Why is the Sagaris such a retrograde step? The throttle cable requires removal of the airbox (the Chimaera didn't), the battery clearly is harder to get to. Oh, and the Chimaera had a decent heater rather than the frankly basic affair the Sag has.
Anyway, moan over. Can anyone let me know how I access the battery as I think I'm going to have to change it.
Additional: Won't even crank over with a booster battery pack connected.
It tries about half a crank then gives up. The booster back says it is fully charged and an external tester confirms this, but even with it connected the POD says the car has only 11v battery power so something is clearly not right.
It tries about half a crank then gives up. The booster back says it is fully charged and an external tester confirms this, but even with it connected the POD says the car has only 11v battery power so something is clearly not right.
d out of that little hole.Something might be pulling the batt voltage down, usual suspect its the alternator (responsible for flattening my battery)
a quick feel of the alternator may give a clue as any heat in it when its not being "used" indicates its drawing current, provided it hasnt already been warmed up from running.
a quick feel of the alternator may give a clue as any heat in it when its not being "used" indicates its drawing current, provided it hasnt already been warmed up from running.
I charged the battery overnight with the conditioner charger (the Banner one) and this morning it started ok, so I'm going to keep an eye on things.
I do think it is on its way out though as it can be flat if I don't drive the car for 2 weeks which didn't used to be the case.
Thanks for the info on how to change it though.
I do think it is on its way out though as it can be flat if I don't drive the car for 2 weeks which didn't used to be the case.
Thanks for the info on how to change it though.
Yep, get Graham Varleys Sagaris manual. Mate , you will never worry about anything mechanical again with it!
Changed my battery 3 weeks ago. Once youve got the Sag in the air get the wheel removed. Then on the right of the arch you will see a cover which is held with two screws at the top of the cover. Pull it down and snip the cable ties of the bottom that wrapped round tubular chassis to totally remove the cover. Remove the 13 mm clamp on the right of the battery (some later sags i think have clamp on right and left of battery) and the battery will with a bit of fiddling, pull out. Rolls reversed for reffiting new battery. Easy enough to do!
Justyn
Changed my battery 3 weeks ago. Once youve got the Sag in the air get the wheel removed. Then on the right of the arch you will see a cover which is held with two screws at the top of the cover. Pull it down and snip the cable ties of the bottom that wrapped round tubular chassis to totally remove the cover. Remove the 13 mm clamp on the right of the battery (some later sags i think have clamp on right and left of battery) and the battery will with a bit of fiddling, pull out. Rolls reversed for reffiting new battery. Easy enough to do!
Justyn
Yep, get Graham Varleys Sagaris manual. Mate , you will never worry about anything mechanical again with it!
Changed my battery 3 weeks ago. Once youve got the Sag in the air get the wheel removed. Then on the right of the arch you will see a cover which is held with two screws at the top of the cover. Pull it down and snip the cable ties of the bottom that wrapped round tubular chassis to totally remove the cover. Remove the 13 mm clamp on the right of the battery (some later sags i think have clamp on right and left of battery) and the battery will with a bit of fiddling, pull out. Rolls reversed for reffiting new battery. Easy enough to do!
Justyn
Changed my battery 3 weeks ago. Once youve got the Sag in the air get the wheel removed. Then on the right of the arch you will see a cover which is held with two screws at the top of the cover. Pull it down and snip the cable ties of the bottom that wrapped round tubular chassis to totally remove the cover. Remove the 13 mm clamp on the right of the battery (some later sags i think have clamp on right and left of battery) and the battery will with a bit of fiddling, pull out. Rolls reversed for reffiting new battery. Easy enough to do!
Justyn
extremekiter said:
Yep, get Graham Varleys Sagaris manual. Mate , you will never worry about anything mechanical again with it!
Changed my battery 3 weeks ago. Once youve got the Sag in the air get the wheel removed. Then on the right of the arch you will see a cover which is held with two screws at the top of the cover. Pull it down and snip the cable ties of the bottom that wrapped round tubular chassis to totally remove the cover. Remove the 13 mm clamp on the right of the battery (some later sags i think have clamp on right and left of battery) and the battery will with a bit of fiddling, pull out. Rolls reversed for reffiting new battery. Easy enough to do!
Yup, I may do that. Whilst it's true that there are less things you can DIY on the Sag than on the Chimaera, there are still a few. And I think the honeymoon period of having a "new" (ish) car is over and I'm back to making minor repairs myself. Changed my battery 3 weeks ago. Once youve got the Sag in the air get the wheel removed. Then on the right of the arch you will see a cover which is held with two screws at the top of the cover. Pull it down and snip the cable ties of the bottom that wrapped round tubular chassis to totally remove the cover. Remove the 13 mm clamp on the right of the battery (some later sags i think have clamp on right and left of battery) and the battery will with a bit of fiddling, pull out. Rolls reversed for reffiting new battery. Easy enough to do!
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