Not enough pilots for Libya
Discussion
Digga said:
Good, it was bound to happen sooner or later - that our means would dicate an end to us playing world police.
So we should pull out then and stop spunking costly ordinance all over the globe.
Oh give over, we didn't have to rush down to Bombs'r'Us to stock up, we already had the stuff so we might as well use it So we should pull out then and stop spunking costly ordinance all over the globe.
Besides, how can we run out of pilots when none of our planes have been downed???
PintOfKittens said:
TeamD said:
Besides, how can we run out of pilots when none of our planes have been downed???
Maintenance Schedules of airframes, and mandatory rest periods for pilots?Mandatory rest periods for pilots!
I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA TeamD said:
Maintenance Schedules of airframes....erm....wouldn't that result in a shortage of planes and a glut of pilots twiddling their thumbs?
Maintenance schedule of airframe vs rest and rotation periods of pilots.TeamD said:
rest periods for pilots! I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA
I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA The linky said:
Because of the intensity of flying on operations, pilots deploy for a maximum of two months at a time and the replacements for those currently enforcing the no-fly zone in Libya will be expected to deploy at the end of next month.
You think simply because they arnt covered by the CAA they dont have mandatory rest periods? Yeah, sure, they'll let a pilot whos been awake for 30 hours fly 80 million euros of high energy aircraft 
TeamD said:
Mandatory rest periods for pilots! I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA
I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA Of course there are limitations on how much flying a pilot can do. These are laid down in Command ASIs (Air Staff Instructions) and GASOs (Group Air Staff Orders) which mandate sortie length (eg AAR), sortie rate, as well as the maximum number of hours that can be flown in any given period. They also mandate the minimum requirements for training currency to maintain operational capability.
The article in the Torygraph is an example of skewed sensationalist reporting. It purports to say that the RAF lacks pilots overall but it actually refers to trained Typhoon pilots.
PintOfKittens said:
TeamD said:
Maintenance Schedules of airframes....erm....wouldn't that result in a shortage of planes and a glut of pilots twiddling their thumbs?
Maintenance schedule of airframe vs rest and rotation periods of pilots.TeamD said:
rest periods for pilots! I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA
I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA The linky said:
Because of the intensity of flying on operations, pilots deploy for a maximum of two months at a time and the replacements for those currently enforcing the no-fly zone in Libya will be expected to deploy at the end of next month.
You think simply because they arnt covered by the CAA they dont have mandatory rest periods? Yeah, sure, they'll let a pilot whos been awake for 30 hours fly 80 million euros of high energy aircraft TeamD said:
PintOfKittens said:
TeamD said:
Besides, how can we run out of pilots when none of our planes have been downed???
Maintenance Schedules of airframes, and mandatory rest periods for pilots?Mandatory rest periods for pilots!
I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA Do you know how difficult it is to AAR at night?
Have you ever had someone try to kill you?
Do you have a f
king clue what you are on about?Mojocvh said:
TeamD said:
PintOfKittens said:
TeamD said:
Besides, how can we run out of pilots when none of our planes have been downed???
Maintenance Schedules of airframes, and mandatory rest periods for pilots?Mandatory rest periods for pilots!
I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA Do you know how difficult it is to AAR at night?
Have you ever had someone try to kill you?
Do you have a f
king clue what you are on about?We've already had someone quote an airforce bigwig saying it's a load of tosh so stop getting your knickers in a twist
Ginetta G15 Girl said:
TeamD said:
Mandatory rest periods for pilots! I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA
I think you'll find the aren't covered by the CAA Of course there are limitations on how much flying a pilot can do. These are laid down in Command ASIs (Air Staff Instructions) and GASOs (Group Air Staff Orders) which mandate sortie length (eg AAR), sortie rate, as well as the maximum number of hours that can be flown in any given period. They also mandate the minimum requirements for training currency to maintain operational capability.
The article in the Torygraph is an example of skewed sensationalist reporting. It purports to say that the RAF lacks pilots overall but it actually refers to trained Typhoon pilots.
zcacogp said:
Does an RAF pilot always fly the same 'plane? (OK, not always, but for the duration of a posting.) Or is it the case that there are x pilots and y 'planes
The latter.Depending on the Unit, a Sqn may or may not have Sqn dedicated a/c. Eg Fighter Sqns do (although these do rotate through the Sqns as they go in and out of deep servicing), whereas (say) Herc Sqns draw their a/c from a pool.
Even if there are Sqn dedicated a/c, and even if you have your name painted on one (not forgetting the fact that there is a ratio of crews : a/c), it doesn't mean that you always fly the same one every time. It will depend upon maintenance schedules, a/c serviceability, role fit, sortie requirement, etc.
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