Webuyanycar.com "gave misleading valuation" - OFT
Webuyanycar.com "gave misleading valuation" - OFT
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john_p

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279 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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BBC News said:
The OFT investigation found that consumers were given the impression that they would be paid the online valuation if the company's onsite inspection matched the condition entered by the seller online.

But once at the appointment, some customers found that other factors reduced the final price from the headline valuation, including "market conditions".

The OFT also found that vehicle inspectors were set targets regarding the purchase of vehicles, sometimes to reduce the valuation offered by up to 25% when they looked at them.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-12934140

Bugeyeandy

12,600 posts

226 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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I just read that article too, not surprised really. Every time i've had a car valued with them it's been about half way between trade in and private sale price - way over what i'd expect for a straight sale to a dealer.

I've seen quite a few posts on here and other forums about their "technique" when actually going down to drop off your car and pick up the cash.

Aren't they part of a bigger car supermarket type dealer?

thetapeworm

13,810 posts

268 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Is http://www.wewantanycar.com the same company?

RemainAllHoof

80,050 posts

311 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Strange because... you aren't obliged to accept their offer.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
Strange because... you aren't obliged to accept their offer.
That's not really the point is it.

GreigM

6,740 posts

278 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
Strange because... you aren't obliged to accept their offer.
Do you not have to agree to pay a fee just to get the "real" valuation?

RemainAllHoof

80,050 posts

311 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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GreigM said:
RemainAllHoof said:
Strange because... you aren't obliged to accept their offer.
Do you not have to agree to pay a fee just to get the "real" valuation?
I didn't have to. Meet guy, he goes around poking bodywork with device, criticises everything, checks paperwork, makes offer. You sign or laugh.

RemainAllHoof

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Friday 1st April 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
RemainAllHoof said:
Strange because... you aren't obliged to accept their offer.
That's not really the point is it.
I'm finding it hard to see any scam. I'll give you 50p for your current vehicle. Is this a scam?

Aberdeenloon

2,672 posts

186 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
300bhp/ton said:
RemainAllHoof said:
Strange because... you aren't obliged to accept their offer.
That's not really the point is it.
I'm finding it hard to see any scam. I'll give you 50p for your current vehicle. Is this a scam?
I've always been of the same view as you RamailAllHoof, but it is a scam when (if) they mislead people into thinking that the price on the screen is the price they will pay.

RemainAllHoof

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Friday 1st April 2011
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Aberdeenloon said:
I've always been of the same view as you RamailAllHoof, but it is a scam when (if) they mislead people into thinking that the price on the screen is the price they will pay.
I can't remember the exact wording of the quote I got but I wasn't bothered when they knocked off money. Maybe, I'm just too rich to care. biggrin I don't remember being surprised when they offered less.

Aberdeenloon

2,672 posts

186 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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thetapeworm said:
Is http://www.wewantanycar.com the same company?
No.

Gruber

6,313 posts

243 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
300bhp/ton said:
RemainAllHoof said:
Strange because... you aren't obliged to accept their offer.
That's not really the point is it.
I'm finding it hard to see any scam. I'll give you 50p for your current vehicle. Is this a scam?
This isn't to do with whether or not there's a scam. Its to do with whether the OFT considers something falls below the standard expected for "fair trading". Its all part of the same slightly nanny-state-ish approach to protecting the Great British public from themselves and from devious (even if not actually fraudulent) business practices.

RemainAllHoof

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311 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Gruber said:
This isn't to do with whether or not there's a scam. Its to do with whether the OFT considers something falls below the standard expected for "fair trading". Its all part of the same slightly nanny-state-ish approach to protecting the Great British public from themselves and from devious (even if not actually fraudulent) business practices.
Hm, I see what you mean.

Deluded

4,968 posts

220 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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It isn't a scam as they don't mislead you into what money you are going to get.

Yes, the website gives you a price and they may offer a seperate price on actual inspection but that isn't a scam. Just a different offer. They aren't offering you something, getting you to sign forms and then only paying half into your account a week later.

Personally I would never use them but there online valuations are useful to assume you could probably double it in a private sale.

Aberdeenloon

2,672 posts

186 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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RemainAllHoof said:
Aberdeenloon said:
I've always been of the same view as you RamailAllHoof, but it is a scam when (if) they mislead people into thinking that the price on the screen is the price they will pay.
I can't remember the exact wording of the quote I got but I wasn't bothered when they knocked off money. Maybe, I'm just too rich to care. biggrin I don't remember being surprised when they offered less.
Yes, because you (and I) expect it. But they never used to make it clear that it was subject to negotiation on inspection - they do now. Not everyone is as wise/wealthy/sceptical as you (or I)!

dlockhart

434 posts

201 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Deluded said:
It isn't a scam as they don't mislead you into what money you are going to get.

Yes, the website gives you a price and they may offer a seperate price on actual inspection but that isn't a scam. Just a different offer. They aren't offering you something, getting you to sign forms and then only paying half into your account a week later.

Personally I would never use them but there online valuations are useful to assume you could probably double it in a private sale.
I found even the web site evaluations laughable - I got almost double the quoted valuation as a trade-in. (this was 18 months ago)

300bhp/ton

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219 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Deluded said:
It isn't a scam as they don't mislead you into what money you are going to get.

Yes, the website gives you a price and they may offer a seperate price on actual inspection but that isn't a scam. Just a different offer. They aren't offering you something, getting you to sign forms and then only paying half into your account a week later.

Personally I would never use them but there online valuations are useful to assume you could probably double it in a private sale.
I wonder about the wording. If it says "may offer less" then it implies it does not happen to every single car. If however every single car is then re-offered at a lower price they should really be stating. We will NOT really pay this price but offer you a lower one in the end.

And equally, if they do use the Market to revalue then on some occasions the final offer should be higher than the online value. Even more so if the owner was over critical when entering details online.

SubaruSteve

546 posts

220 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Deluded said:
It isn't a scam as they don't mislead you into what money you are going to get.

Yes, the website gives you a price and they may offer a seperate price on actual inspection but that isn't a scam. Just a different offer. They aren't offering you something, getting you to sign forms and then only paying half into your account a week later.

Personally I would never use them but there online valuations are useful to assume you could probably double it in a private sale.
It would be no different if I advertised my cars for sale at one price and then when you turn up I say 'sorry but the market conditions have changed so the price has gone up by £500'. I am sure everyone on here would be up in arms at that kind of practice and the webuyanycar way of doing things is very much the same.

Deluded

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220 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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SubaruSteve said:
It would be no different if I advertised my cars for sale at one price and then when you turn up I say 'sorry but the market conditions have changed so the price has gone up by £500'. I am sure everyone on here would be up in arms at that kind of practice and the webuyanycar way of doing things is very much the same.
It would be annoying and you would potentially waste peoples time but I doubt there is anything illegal about that.

They do state on the website that all prices are subject to a full inspection so that probably covers their back for them to offer whatever they want. No one is forcing you to hand over the keys. Yes, it might waste your Saturday afternoon going down for them to have a look but so would having to wait in for someone to view the car that doesn't turn up.

Aberdeenloon

2,672 posts

186 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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dlockhart said:
I found even the web site evaluations laughable - I got almost double the quoted valuation as a trade-in. (this was 18 months ago)
Yea, well if you were trading in a £500 banger against a brand new 7 Series you could expect £5k for it - doesn't mean it's worth £5k though, does it?
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