How often do you buy the Track Day photos?
Poll: How often do you buy the Track Day photos?
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Discussion
I was surprised at the weekend to be at a track day where there wasn't an official photographer with the TDO. Guess I'm just being nosey and wanted an idea of who many folk do buy the shots they take.
Personally I think I've only bought two sets as generally we're in a group and various mates manage to get shots of us.
Personally I think I've only bought two sets as generally we're in a group and various mates manage to get shots of us.
I take my camera and get a few pit lane shots of my car and other cars there on the day. I /might/ go and take some on-track shots if there's something special about. But generally I'm too busy with the car or chatting to people to wander off taking loads of photos of other people on track.
But I do like photos of my car on track, so for £30 or whatever it is for 50 or so photos it seems reasonable, so I tend to buy them every time.
But I do like photos of my car on track, so for £30 or whatever it is for 50 or so photos it seems reasonable, so I tend to buy them every time.
agent006 said:
Most of the time the official pictures I've seen of me on trackdays have been distinctly average. Yes it's an accurate representation of my car on the track but rarely is it anything more, certainly no better than (or even as good as) I'd take myself as an amateur at a club race.
What exactly where you expecting?You can always add some 'drama' in PS afterwards if you want.
mrmr96 said:
agent006 said:
Most of the time the official pictures I've seen of me on trackdays have been distinctly average. Yes it's an accurate representation of my car on the track but rarely is it anything more, certainly no better than (or even as good as) I'd take myself as an amateur at a club race.
What exactly where you expecting?
. The shots I like, show the car against an interesting context of the particular circuit and/or in proximity to other cars.I think you need to consider what they are in context. There can be up to 100 cars or more on a trackday, so trying to get slow shutter speed panning shots isn't exactly easy, as they are not shooting 'just your car' they have to try to shoot _every_ car with the same attention to detail etc. You may not go out many times so they can't risk getting the blur or focus wrong.
As I said, you can add 'motion blur' etc in photoshop afterwards.
And with regards to showing off circuit features, they are confined to taking photos from the designated photo areas. This is to do with safety and insurance (as well as where the gaps in the fence are!) But I've always had good photos that show of Hangar Straight at Silverstone, Paddock at Brands, Craner Curves at Donny etc etc.
Finally, with regards to showing you near other cars.. if you were near them, then they will be in shot. If not, then they won't!
As I said, you can add 'motion blur' etc in photoshop afterwards.
And with regards to showing off circuit features, they are confined to taking photos from the designated photo areas. This is to do with safety and insurance (as well as where the gaps in the fence are!) But I've always had good photos that show of Hangar Straight at Silverstone, Paddock at Brands, Craner Curves at Donny etc etc.
Finally, with regards to showing you near other cars.. if you were near them, then they will be in shot. If not, then they won't!
agent006 said:
Most of the time the official pictures I've seen of me on trackdays have been distinctly average. Yes it's an accurate representation of my car on the track but rarely is it anything more, certainly no better than (or even as good as) I'd take myself as an amateur at a club race.
This is an interesting thread. I was helping the official photographer at a recent TD at Cadwell and the rider in the image below didn't purchase the image 
I was briefed to up the shutter speed so as not to have many unusable images as we've only a certain amount of time to download and sort the images into their various folders before the attendees come and view, thus the image below could have been shot at a lower shuuter speed, but it's sharp & shows the action and the riders face detail. Again, another no sale.
I attended Mallory (Friday) & Anglesey (Saturday) as the official photographer and, as mentioned here, there were a few comments of "nothing spectacular". Well, there's a saying, the camera never lies...................I/we can't add anything. If you do something spectacular, then we will probably have caught it.
Again, this bloke rolled his Mitsi Evo right in front of me. I took around 25 images and quoted him £50 for all of them, high res., copyright free, still waiting..............
Jonny, I'll be giving you a call
snapper8v said:
This is an interesting thread. I was helping the official photographer at a recent TD at Cadwell and the rider in the image below didn't purchase the image
I was briefed to up the shutter speed so as not to have many unusable images as we've only a certain amount of time to download and sort the images into their various folders before the attendees come and view, thus the image below could have been shot at a lower shuuter speed, but it's sharp & shows the action and the riders face detail. Again, another no sale.
I attended Mallory (Friday) & Anglesey (Saturday) as the official photographer and, as mentioned here, there were a few comments of "nothing spectacular". Well, there's a saying, the camera never lies...................I/we can't add anything. If you do something spectacular, then we will probably have caught it.
Again, this bloke rolled his Mitsi Evo right in front of me. I took around 25 images and quoted him £50 for all of them, high res., copyright free, still waiting..............
Jonny, I'll be giving you a call
Those are all great shots and were I in any of them I'd have paid up. Except maybe the evo as I'd still be crying/in ICU...I was briefed to up the shutter speed so as not to have many unusable images as we've only a certain amount of time to download and sort the images into their various folders before the attendees come and view, thus the image below could have been shot at a lower shuuter speed, but it's sharp & shows the action and the riders face detail. Again, another no sale.
I attended Mallory (Friday) & Anglesey (Saturday) as the official photographer and, as mentioned here, there were a few comments of "nothing spectacular". Well, there's a saying, the camera never lies...................I/we can't add anything. If you do something spectacular, then we will probably have caught it.
Again, this bloke rolled his Mitsi Evo right in front of me. I took around 25 images and quoted him £50 for all of them, high res., copyright free, still waiting..............
Jonny, I'll be giving you a call
And i can tell you I haven't bought a trackday shot in years. tbh can't even be bothered to check them anymore.
Did the people in those pics actually come up and inspect? I wonder if bikers are less likely to pay up - bike trackdays are a lot cheaper so maybe the audience is less inclined to spend cash on photos?
DanH said:
Did the people in those pics actually come up and inspect? I wonder if bikers are less likely to pay up - bike trackdays are a lot cheaper so maybe the audience is less inclined to spend cash on photos?
I was told that the bikers actually pend more than the drivers as they carry more cash with them due to requiring tyres to be swapped over etc, and to purchase images.As for being creative, TBH, there's not a great deal of time (with the bikes) as they're mostly quite bunched up, and I'm concentrating more to get a good selection of images taken around the circuit. I know of the saying "quality rather than quantity" but I'd prefer to sell a disc with all the images for £30 rather than a print for £10.
snapper8v said:
This is an interesting thread. I was helping the official photographer at a recent TD at Cadwell and the rider in the image below didn't purchase the image
I was briefed to up the shutter speed so as not to have many unusable images as we've only a certain amount of time to download and sort the images into their various folders before the attendees come and view, thus the image below could have been shot at a lower shuuter speed, but it's sharp & shows the action and the riders face detail. Again, another no sale.
I attended Mallory (Friday) & Anglesey (Saturday) as the official photographer and, as mentioned here, there were a few comments of "nothing spectacular". Well, there's a saying, the camera never lies...................I/we can't add anything. If you do something spectacular, then we will probably have caught it.
Again, this bloke rolled his Mitsi Evo right in front of me. I took around 25 images and quoted him £50 for all of them, high res., copyright free, still waiting..............
Jonny, I'll be giving you a call
No offence mate, but get a shorter URL. Just taken me 30 secs to read, translate and type that off your photos. Just a thought to make things a little easier for potential customers. www.lcphoto.co.uk? Great snaps BTWI was briefed to up the shutter speed so as not to have many unusable images as we've only a certain amount of time to download and sort the images into their various folders before the attendees come and view, thus the image below could have been shot at a lower shuuter speed, but it's sharp & shows the action and the riders face detail. Again, another no sale.
I attended Mallory (Friday) & Anglesey (Saturday) as the official photographer and, as mentioned here, there were a few comments of "nothing spectacular". Well, there's a saying, the camera never lies...................I/we can't add anything. If you do something spectacular, then we will probably have caught it.
Again, this bloke rolled his Mitsi Evo right in front of me. I took around 25 images and quoted him £50 for all of them, high res., copyright free, still waiting..............
Jonny, I'll be giving you a call
As a biker, I paid for the set from my first day, waited until the photos from the second day were online and realised there was nothing great in there, so didn't bother. At my most recent one I was on a new bike and I'd managed to get my knee down, so in the photos my lean angle was much greater than before, this demanded another purchase.
One of the other decisions is that if the photos are made available online I'd guess that you can pick and choose at leisure with no risk of them disappearing, yet if you have to buy them on the day then you're more likely to cough up for the disc.
As for bikers not going for pics as much as car drivers, I'd agree with the other poster in saying that they're more likely to, certainly there's more evidence in the photos of improvement in skill than there is in a car. In a car you're going to be sat in the seat in the same position, you might have a cocked rear wheel or you might have a bit of a drift on the go, whereas on a bike you can see that your body position has changed, your lean angle has improved, you could have a slight wheelie on the go, your knee can touch down...
Plus with more bikers on a day in general, there are more punters and the prices may well be cheaper than a car day where there are less punters to sell to.
One of the other decisions is that if the photos are made available online I'd guess that you can pick and choose at leisure with no risk of them disappearing, yet if you have to buy them on the day then you're more likely to cough up for the disc.
As for bikers not going for pics as much as car drivers, I'd agree with the other poster in saying that they're more likely to, certainly there's more evidence in the photos of improvement in skill than there is in a car. In a car you're going to be sat in the seat in the same position, you might have a cocked rear wheel or you might have a bit of a drift on the go, whereas on a bike you can see that your body position has changed, your lean angle has improved, you could have a slight wheelie on the go, your knee can touch down...
Plus with more bikers on a day in general, there are more punters and the prices may well be cheaper than a car day where there are less punters to sell to.
Those are some great bike photos Lawrence 
I tend to buy the photos when I go to a new circuit so that I get pics that are different to what I already have. The official photographers tend to have their 'safe' locations on each circuit. So if you go back again you only end up with similar photos.
I tend to buy the photos when I go to a new circuit so that I get pics that are different to what I already have. The official photographers tend to have their 'safe' locations on each circuit. So if you go back again you only end up with similar photos.
I would buy them if there were some good photos.
When I went to Oulton with Javelin, the photographer was working alone, and there were only a few shots, the majority taken on the sighting laps. Coupled with a fairly steep price £25 for ~15 images I didn't buy any.
At Cadwell with Focused events there were several photographers working together who produced ~75 higher quality images from several points on the track throughout the day.
I was happy with buying these at £30, as I have proof of my car getting two wheels off the ground at the Mountain!
People did try to haggle the photo prices down, but they weren't for having it.
When I went to Oulton with Javelin, the photographer was working alone, and there were only a few shots, the majority taken on the sighting laps. Coupled with a fairly steep price £25 for ~15 images I didn't buy any.
At Cadwell with Focused events there were several photographers working together who produced ~75 higher quality images from several points on the track throughout the day.
I was happy with buying these at £30, as I have proof of my car getting two wheels off the ground at the Mountain!
People did try to haggle the photo prices down, but they weren't for having it.
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