H224 cam
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swissgriff500

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104 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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Can someone tell me how would H224 cam compare to H218 and H404?
Cheers,
Ozren

2 sheds

2,529 posts

313 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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swissgriff500 said:
Can someone tell me how would H224 cam compare to H218 and H404?
Cheers,
Ozren


Hi ozren

The 224 would have a higher power band than the H218 and give far less torque at low rpm, V8 racing would give more details but i would suggest that the H404 would still produce slightly more power than the H224 even at high rpm, and more torque as well, the H224 is an old design whereas the 404 has been designed with all the latest knowledge and experience.
IMO the 218 and 404 cover thew market very well, the 218 being the softer cam & 404 offering more exitement.
Tim

markh

2,781 posts

304 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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Hi Tim
any idea where the MC-1 falls in this list?

mark

swissgriff500

Original Poster:

104 posts

288 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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Tks Tim - one can always count on your comments/advice.
Call you tomorrow re trumpets (you just got another Swiss customer).
Cheers, Ozren

2 sheds

2,529 posts

313 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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Thanks Ozren
The MC1 is V8 Developments own variant of the 218, by all accounts a very good cam.
Tim

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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224 makes a bit more hp but gives up a shedfull of torque, masses in fact. 218 or very similar is a good way to go.

tiny

415 posts

280 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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I've got V8 Dev latest prototype version of an MC1 in my Griff and am very pleased ( see dyno shootout thread)

swissgriff500

Original Poster:

104 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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Guillotine said:

the torque curves were pretty much identical.
we over laid tiny/my graphs...mine were just a touch higher! 250lbft@2750...270lbft@4250/4750....
the MC1 and the 404H are both FAB cams.
starmist said:
Excellent day, Guillotine! Since you've spilled the beans I'll report 253bhp / 260lbft for mine, maxed out on the injectors...

Hi Tiny,
In fact, I’ve gone thought that thread several times. Did you have a chance to overlay your graph with Starmist (Taraka) one – how do they compare in terms of the torque curve (low/mid rpm range). Tks, Ozren

tiny

415 posts

280 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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No, I didn't see starmist's final printout - I'm seeing him this weekend at a local Bristol meet so I'll ask him if he has it now.

swissgriff500

Original Poster:

104 posts

288 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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he kindly e-mailed me some info in the meantime
tks to all of you
cheers, ozren

v8 racing

2,064 posts

280 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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all the kent cams range excluding the 218 and the ones i have developed with kent are based upon 3.5 litre engines so in fairness a 224 as tim said is realy old hat now in a 5 litre, the bigger the capacity the faster you can open the valve whilst still maintaining good air speed, the mc1 is a tried and tested cam that works good in all the rev range, the 404 is more a sports cam but the downside is mechanical lifters, the 404h at the moment is only fitted in guillotines car, and although first signs are very impressive i cant really say more than that?
Please dont compare power graphs between tiny's car and guillotines car as they are running totaly different induction systems which IMHO tinys will flow a lot more hence make the cam look as good as guillotines if that makes any sense!!!?

Guillotine

5,516 posts

293 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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listen to the man...he KNOWS what he's talking about!



i can vouch for the 404H (AND the 404). the 404H is very nearly as good as the 404 with NO agro!!! with the improved induction mods due on my car over the next month, i expect it to show even more on the road closing the gap even further. fabulous power and a pussycat round town, what more could you ask?

I'm sure (as i think V8 racing suggests) that the 404H will be as good or better than the 404 if correctly fed.

anyway, just go for what he suggests and you won't go wrong