Classic F1 2011 - Michael Schumacher
Classic F1 2011 - Michael Schumacher
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StuartMcKay

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Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Michael Schumacher has chosen his five greatest all-time grands prix for the second edition of this year's new-look classic Formula 1 feature.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2011/04/mi...

The thing that I really like is that the first 2 races he has picked are not his best but other drivers that he has enjoyed watching!

Schumi said:
(About the 91 Spanish GP) This was one of the first few races of my career, but that's not why I remember it. It's for the wheel-to-wheel battle down the pit straight between Ayrton Senna and Nigel Mansell, when they came within inches of touching. It was two great drivers pushing each other to the edge, but with the respect to leave each other just enough room. It's one of the coolest moments I've seen in F1
(I'm a huge Schumacher fan but even I had a chuckle at the bit in bold...lol)

Now to sit and wait for the usual Schumacher haters to start their usual campaign... wink

matt3001

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226 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Is that a typo by the BBC. I think its 1992.

Michael didn't start F1 till Spa '91.

StuartMcKay

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Tuesday 5th April 2011
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matt3001 said:
Is that a typo by the BBC. I think its 1992.

Michael didn't start F1 till Spa '91.
Spain wasn't always before Belgium. wink

matt3001

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Tuesday 5th April 2011
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StuartMcKay said:
Spain wasn't always before Belgium. wink
Lol, this is true. I was being dense.

Agoogy

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277 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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See now if he did more of this kind of guff and stopped with the over bearing air of superiority, and dealt with media in a less formal way I could get to like the chap....there's just not enough public insight into this bloke IMO.

Thats a good piece.

Revhappychappy

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242 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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On the Red button NOW! 1991 Spanish GP on now, 1993 European GP from Donington coming up next..

Richard-G

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204 months

Tuesday 5th April 2011
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Revhappychappy said:
On the Red button NOW! 1991 Spanish GP on now, 1993 European GP from Donington coming up next..
nice one rev, although it says press 2, it only worked when i pressed 3!

as for the schumi haters, feel as though we lost a 7 time world champion from the past and gained a ledgend in the pitlane in the now. I loved when the camera cut to him in qually in melbourne and he did the rock on sign with his thumb and little finger.


Streps

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195 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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It's always fascinating to hear this rare insight coming from Schumacher.

"I enjoyed many great battles with Mika Hakkinen, who was very fast and a very tough competitor, and this was one of the best.
I got into the lead when it was wet early on,but as it dried up Mika had a big pace advantage and he caught up easily. I managed to fend him off for one lap,but on the next he pulled off a great move to pass me as we went either side of Ricardo Zonta's BAR."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5jITHdcY7k
cool

Fantastic moments.

CiderwithCerbie

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296 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Streps said:
It's always fascinating to hear this rare insight coming from Schumacher.

"I enjoyed many great battles with Mika Hakkinen, who was very fast and a very tough competitor, and this was one of the best.
I got into the lead when it was wet early on,but as it dried up Mika had a big pace advantage and he caught up easily. I managed to fend him off for one lap***,but on the next he pulled off a great move to pass me as we went either side of Ricardo Zonta's BAR."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5jITHdcY7k
Forgot to include; the whole truth as usual; " ***when I tried to drive him off onto the grass at 200mph...."

What a total c*nt he is!

StuartMcKay

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Wednesday 6th April 2011
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CiderwithCerbie said:
Forgot to include; the whole truth as usual; " ***when I tried to drive him off onto the grass at 200mph...."

What a total c*nt he is!
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!

matt3001

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226 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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StuartMcKay said:
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
Some people just don't like Schumacher. End of. I despise Button but I don't have a pop about how useless he is / was only world champion in 2009 because of the car / love how Lewis shows him up in every race and qualifying session.

Richard-G

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204 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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matt3001 said:
StuartMcKay said:
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
Some people just don't like Schumacher. End of. I despise Button but I don't have a pop about how useless he is / was only world champion in 2009 because of the car / love how Lewis shows him up in every race and qualifying session.
every race and qually session you say rolleyes

StuartMcKay

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Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Richard-G said:
matt3001 said:
StuartMcKay said:
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
Some people just don't like Schumacher. End of. I despise Button but I don't have a pop about how useless he is / was only world champion in 2009 because of the car / love how Lewis shows him up in every race and qualifying session.
every race and qually session you say rolleyes
Sorry Matt but that stuff about Jenson is utter rubbish!!! No doubting that the car in 2009 was epic BUT he still had to contend with a strong team mate in Rubans to win the title and a Red Bull that was far better in the second half of the season. He is widely regarded as the smoothest driver on the grid and looks after his tyres better than most which will really play in to his hands this year.

And I hardly think that he has been showed up by Lewis!!

E30M3SE

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225 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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StuartMcKay said:
CiderwithCerbie said:
Forgot to include; the whole truth as usual; " ***when I tried to drive him off onto the grass at 200mph...."

What a total c*nt he is!
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
Don't feed the troll.

CiderwithCerbie

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296 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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StuartMcKay said:
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
The best view was from inside Mika's car and he had very serious words with Scumsucker about it after the race. Brundle also thought it was totally out of order, though it pales in comparison with his moves on Barichello...and Hill...and Villeneuve...and Frentzen...and his own brother... and brake testing Hakkinen on the main straight in Macau F3 etc. etc.

Not trolling, just keeping the record straight and in view. There are enough hagiographers of Schumacher for him not to have to write his own panegyrics (look it up)!

unpc

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242 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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matt3001 said:
StuartMcKay said:
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
Some people just don't like Schumacher. End of. I despise Button but I don't have a pop about how useless he is / was only world champion in 2009 because of the car / love how Lewis shows him up in every race and qualifying session.
The irony is stong in this one...

matt3001

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Friday 8th April 2011
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unpc said:
The irony is stong in this one...
That was kind of the point!

StuartMcKay

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Friday 8th April 2011
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CiderwithCerbie said:
StuartMcKay said:
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
The best view was from inside Mika's car and he had very serious words with Scumsucker about it after the race. Brundle also thought it was totally out of order, though it pales in comparison with his moves on Barichello...and Hill...and Villeneuve...and Frentzen...and his own brother... and brake testing Hakkinen on the main straight in Macau F3 etc. etc.

Not trolling, just keeping the record straight and in view. There are enough hagiographers of Schumacher for him not to have to write his own panegyrics (look it up)!
Certainly no need to look either hagiographers or panegyrics up on my part! Believe it or not some people on PH have been educated slightly above a primary school level but just don't feel the need to try and belittle people with big or clever words when simple ones will do the job just as well....

No matter what way you try and dress it up your post was just one of many Schumacher trolling comments that has come to be expected even when the bloke does something unexpected! If you really want to look a Schumacher as a 'saint' then you certainly wouldn't look at his racing career!! But you would if you were to look at his humanitarian work and charitable donations which totalled around $50million in his final 4 years at Ferrari alone so god only knows how much more he has donated.

How’s about laying off for a change and just enjoying the 'hagiographical' views he has of other drivers battling wheel to wheel!?!


Richard-G

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204 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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StuartMcKay said:
CiderwithCerbie said:
StuartMcKay said:
Better view here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1WuWu8kGak&fea...

What exactly did he do wrong? He's allowed one move across the track which he did! MH decided to keep going for a gap that was only getting smaller!!
The best view was from inside Mika's car and he had very serious words with Scumsucker about it after the race. Brundle also thought it was totally out of order, though it pales in comparison with his moves on Barichello...and Hill...and Villeneuve...and Frentzen...and his own brother... and brake testing Hakkinen on the main straight in Macau F3 etc. etc.

Not trolling, just keeping the record straight and in view. There are enough hagiographers of Schumacher for him not to have to write his own panegyrics (look it up)!
Certainly no need to look either hagiographers or panegyrics up on my part! Believe it or not some people on PH have been educated slightly above a primary school level but just don't feel the need to try and belittle people with big or clever words when simple ones will do the job just as well....

No matter what way you try and dress it up your post was just one of many Schumacher trolling comments that has come to be expected even when the bloke does something unexpected! If you really want to look a Schumacher as a 'saint' then you certainly wouldn't look at his racing career!! But you would if you were to look at his humanitarian work and charitable donations which totalled around $50million in his final 4 years at Ferrari alone so god only knows how much more he has donated.

How’s about laying off for a change and just enjoying the 'hagiographical' views he has of other drivers battling wheel to wheel!?!
"It was not a race. It was a demonstration of brilliance"

this was said about Michael Schumacher by a man whose opinion is one of the most valued in the sport, by a man who has seen all of the greats in the sport and by a man who has no axe to grind. If you try and claim MS isnt one of the greats then you are talking out of the whole in your arse

I say this after MS made me cry as a 10 year old after his move on Damon in Adelaide, im far from a fanboy

CiderwithCerbie

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296 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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StuartMcKay said:
Certainly no need to look either hagiographers or panegyrics up on my part! Believe it or not some people on PH have been educated slightly above a primary school level but just don't feel the need to try and belittle people with big or clever words when simple ones will do the job just as well....

No matter what way you try and dress it up your post was just one of many Schumacher trolling comments that has come to be expected even when the bloke does something unexpected! If you really want to look a Schumacher as a 'saint' then you certainly wouldn't look at his racing career!! But you would if you were to look at his humanitarian work and charitable donations which totalled around $50million in his final 4 years at Ferrari alone so god only knows how much more he has donated.

How’s about laying off for a change and just enjoying the 'hagiographical' views he has of other drivers battling wheel to wheel!?!
Schumacher is undoubtably one of the most able drivers ever with peerless F1 stats, but I for one will never give up pointing out the historical truth that his brilliance is deeply flawed by his persistent fouling, dangerous driving and lack of sportsmanship and that is why, for me and many others he can never be accounted among the sports truly greats. I am no troll, but where MS is concerned I will always choose to put the record straight.

The trouble is you guys have fallen for the sucker PR punch. After he nearly killed Barichello he had a massive publicity problem. The failure of his return to F1 the sullying of the record AND another dreadful, probably the worst, driving incident. Consequnetly there's been a massive attempt to show him in a good light. Publicising some great races, including giving a big nod to Hakkinen is as cynical a piece of PR as I have ever seen. He has done this before and with a cuddle from Bernie after the Frentzen incident, when he was still F1's biggest money spinner. BE won't be interested now. I simply can't believe how many on here are taken in by this BS.

[Not particularly interested in discussing the charity stuff this time, but what does it represent as a proportion of total wealth and was it done without publicity?]



Edited by CiderwithCerbie on Friday 8th April 22:10