Weight Training - moving from strength to size
Weight Training - moving from strength to size
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Tokoloshe

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376 posts

207 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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I want to find out whether my thinking is correct when it comes to strength vs size type training.

Strength training I know concentrates on compound excercises using maximum weight with low reps, and long rest periods between workouts.

Ive been working on my strength for a while now, and would like to move towards a workout more geared towards gaining muscle size for the next 8 weeks. My understanding is that this is done by increasing the reps, decreasing the sets, and hitting more isolated muscle groups.

Is is this simple? and if so, what would a good structured workout look like?

I was thinking along the lines of doing 3 sets of 8 reps, possibly 10 reps for things like biceps, but would appreciate some input on what should put on size most effectively.

balders118

5,940 posts

197 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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Basically you're correct.

You still need all the compound stuff in there as they are critical for gaining size. Some people will recommend 4/5 day spilts where each muscle gets trained once a week. My preference is 3 day spilt, trained 4/5 times a week so each muscle group is getting hit every 4/5 days rather than every 7.

Reps wise your looking at 8-12, sets wise IMO depends on what other exercises you're doing, and the nature of the exercise. Bench press, or squats for example I would do 4 sets, bicep curls 2 or 3. You don't need to do too much isolative (is that a word?) work on arms for example as they will get hit hard with all the other work.

Make sure your diet is right, without a good diet no matter how hard you train you won't see the results that you're looking for.

A split I have used is (these workouts generally take about an hour and a half, less if you don't faff)...

Chest and arms
Bench Press x 4
Incline Press x 2/3
Flyes x 4
Dips x 4
Close grip x 4
Standing curls x 4 (relatively high number of sets for biceps, but as there is no back work to supplement it I'd keep them in)
Hammer curls x 2

Back and Shoulders
Bent over row x 4
Wide grip pull ups x 3
Close grip lat pulls downs x 3
Low row x 2/3
Reverse Flyes x 4
Shoulder press x 4
Upright row x 4
Lateral raise x 4

Legs and Core
Squats x 4
Lunges x 3
Deadlifts x 4
Leg extensions (optional) x 2/3
Dumbell leg curls x 2/3
Calf raise x 3 (higher reps)
Crunches x 3 (again, sets of 20 for all core/ab work)
Jackhammers x 3
roll outs x 3
russian twists x 3

They're fairly big workouts, the leg one in particular (which may take slightly longer than and hour and a half especially if you are pushing hard with the weights.) I would never do any more than this, but would advise a bit less for more of a beginner as I would give this to someone who is fairly advanced. Even if you advanced it might be a bit much (I tend to do bigger than most workouts) and cutting out a couple of the less important exercises would be fine, byt just swap them for others every few weeks to make sure all the angles are getting hit.