Audio advice - ISO/Sony connectors
Audio advice - ISO/Sony connectors
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10AE

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4,121 posts

237 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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A previous owner has cut off the original Peugeot plug and hardwired in a 16 pin Sony plug.

I want to install my Clarion unit which uses the standard (I think) ISO socket.

Is there a lead that I can just plug in between the existing plug and my radio, or am I going to have to faff around hardwiring in an ISO block?

The plug would need to be a 'female' Sony 16 pin to male ISO block suitable for my Clarion DXZ388R


v8will

3,310 posts

225 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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Makes no sense, with the exception of the live and ignition live feeds being arse about face on a Pug then the car would have had ISO connectors (unless very old, ie Pug 205, 309 etc)

You'll need to cut the sony plug off and start with new ISO blocks, any decent car audio fitter could do this in about 30 minutes.

Negative Creep

26,064 posts

256 months

Friday 8th April 2011
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I take it you mean something like this is in the car at the moment?



If so, you'll need to wire a new iso plug in. Easy enough if you know how to use a multimeter and to find the speaker wires put them across an AA battery. Get a matching pair and that speaker will make a popping noise

10AE

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4,121 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Negative Creep said:
I take it you mean something like this is in the car at the moment?



If so, you'll need to wire a new iso plug in. Easy enough if you know how to use a multimeter and to find the speaker wires put them across an AA battery. Get a matching pair and that speaker will make a popping noise
Yes, the original wires were cut, and this was added in using a block connector. I can take this adapter out of the block connector and wire in an ISO block easily enough.

I don't suppose anyone had a 306 radio wiring diagram to speed things up? I've looked on the 'net and surprisingly Haynes has failed me with this one.

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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10AE said:
Negative Creep said:
I take it you mean something like this is in the car at the moment?



If so, you'll need to wire a new iso plug in. Easy enough if you know how to use a multimeter and to find the speaker wires put them across an AA battery. Get a matching pair and that speaker will make a popping noise
Yes, the original wires were cut, and this was added in using a block connector. I can take this adapter out of the block connector and wire in an ISO block easily enough.

I don't suppose anyone had a 306 radio wiring diagram to speed things up? I've looked on the 'net and surprisingly Haynes has failed me with this one.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=peugeot+306+stereo+wiring+diagram&hl=en&prmd=ivns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=tE-gTYuXIYHPhAe0mNCHBQ&sqi=2&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1765&bih=1025



10AE

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4,121 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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edo said:
Tried that, most of the images are either too small to be of any use or don't tie up with the colours of the wires in my car biggrin


Negative Creep

26,064 posts

256 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Presuming the other stereo was wired in correctly you could just change it over one wire at a time?

IROC-Z

540 posts

220 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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10AE said:
The plug would need to be a 'female' Sony 16 pin to male ISO block suitable for my Clarion DXZ388R
Good Evening Mr C. wavey

I think you might mean that the other way around. Car stereos have 'male' connector on the back (i.e. the prongs sticking out) which accept a female ISO plug. From the sounds of it you've got a female Sony plug hardwired on to the Peugeot wiring. If that is the case, one of these is arse-about-face for your needs.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JVC-SONY-16-PIN-WIRING-CONNE...

That is a female Sony to male ISO.

Although it would be useless to you what it will enable you to do is match up the butchered car wiring with the correct ISO colour code. By holding the two female Sony plugs together and observing which wire matches up to which you can work out the colour system. To make it easier, ISO connectors/converter harnesses usually have each wires application written on the insulation itself.

Once you've done that you can purchase a female ISO connector with 'flying leads' at one end, which you could then hardwire on to the car. I would personally use crimp connectors as opposed to a 'chocolate box' connector.

The other method someone mentioned is to work out the wiring system yourself. You'll need a multimeter and although you can use a AA battery to work out the speaker wiring you can easily wire a speaker out of phase (i.e. reverse the positive and negative connections) which will result in the loss of correct stereo reproduction.

10AE

Original Poster:

4,121 posts

237 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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IROC-Z said:
Good Evening Mr C. wavey

I think you might mean that the other way around. Car stereos have 'male' connector on the back (i.e. the prongs sticking out) which accept a female ISO plug. From the sounds of it you've got a female Sony plug hardwired on to the Peugeot wiring. If that is the case, one of these is arse-about-face for your needs.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/JVC-SONY-16-PIN-WIRING-CONNE...

That is a female Sony to male ISO.

Although it would be useless to you what it will enable you to do is match up the butchered car wiring with the correct ISO colour code. By holding the two female Sony plugs together and observing which wire matches up to which you can work out the colour system. To make it easier, ISO connectors/converter harnesses usually have each wires application written on the insulation itself.

Once you've done that you can purchase a female ISO connector with 'flying leads' at one end, which you could then hardwire on to the car. I would personally use crimp connectors as opposed to a 'chocolate box' connector.

The other method someone mentioned is to work out the wiring system yourself. You'll need a multimeter and although you can use a AA battery to work out the speaker wiring you can easily wire a speaker out of phase (i.e. reverse the positive and negative connections) which will result in the loss of correct stereo reproduction.
You are quite correct, 'my bad', as they say!

I've purchased an ISO block with 'flying leads' earlier today on the good old eBay for a bargain £1.94 delivered (as opposed to £9 from Maplins - didn't fancy going into Brighton tomorrow with the marathon traffic hold ups)

I think I've worked out the wiring this evening. When I'm back from Hungary we should get together - I'll run the DA over the Jag's paintwork for you and you can do this crimping jazz in my 306!? wink


IROC-Z

540 posts

220 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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10AE said:
You are quite correct, 'my bad', as they say!

I've purchased an ISO block with 'flying leads' earlier today on the good old eBay for a bargain £1.94 delivered (as opposed to £9 from Maplins - didn't fancy going into Brighton tomorrow with the marathon traffic hold ups)

I think I've worked out the wiring this evening. When I'm back from Hungary we should get together - I'll run the DA over the Jag's paintwork for you and you can do this crimping jazz in my 306!? wink
An easy mistake to make!

Maplin and Halfords are a rip off when it comes to most things but especially car radio accessories!

That sounds like a good trade. However, I know what you mean by DA, I don't know what DA means, if you see what I mean?

Have a good time in Hungary! (I've forgotten when you said you were going to assume it's soon).