Button unlucky in quali
Button unlucky in quali
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hotmelt

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861 posts

202 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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He is fourth although he could have been easily second judging by his constant performances. Also the lap is pretty long and this 3 tenths difference to the pole is really small.

Andyuk911

1,979 posts

238 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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with any luck, if Lewis can get in front of vettle, he can back him into Mark and Jenson can go round the outside for a McLaren one two ... smile

jains15

1,013 posts

202 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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hotmelt said:
He is fourth although he could have been easily second judging by his constant performances. Also the lap is pretty long and this 3 tenths difference to the pole is really small.
How was he unlucky? Did he hit traffic?

Altrezia

8,740 posts

240 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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It's unlucky that he doesnt have the talent of Hamilton, Vettel or Webber hehe

Regiment

2,799 posts

188 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Altrezia said:
It's unlucky that he doesnt have the talent of Hamilton, Vettel or Webber hehe
Talent is a strong word, especially considering 2 of those 3 are in a faster car.

hotmelt

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861 posts

202 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Ok, but still good performances for him in the first race and here.

Kneetrembler

2,069 posts

231 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Altrezia said:
It's unlucky that he doesnt have the talent of Hamilton, Vettel or Webber hehe
Disagree with that comment especially as he has been World Champion and Webber still has to prove himself !

Jasandjules

72,577 posts

258 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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hotmelt said:
He is fourth although he could have been easily second judging by his constant performances. Also the lap is pretty long and this 3 tenths difference to the pole is really small.
It wasn't unlucky. He just wasn't good enough or alternatively, he wasn't as good as Lewis.

Allyc85

7,225 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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I saw the thread title before I saw qualy and thought he must have had a mechanical failure or traffic at some point in the session, but I deffo didnt see him be unlucky, just not fast enough!

xr287

875 posts

209 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Altrezia said:
It's unlucky that he doesnt have the talent of Hamilton, Vettel or Webber hehe
I think only Hamilton is truely better than Button. Vettel is certainly faster over one flying lap but he can't race, adapt and make strategy calls like Button and Webber is just not quite as good all round as Jenson.

cosicave

686 posts

189 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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As far as I know Button had a reasonably clean lap and was not caught up in traffic. He did a super job and has placed the car where it probably is (on merit) in my opinion; behind the Red Bulls. I say this without bias or favour but what Hamilton did was virtually beyond the car's capability. - It might look daft in print but once again he seems to have reached a place out of the reach of mere mortals. Of course, none of this detracts from Vettel's achievement in the best car; fully deserving of Pole with a brilliant lap.

Who is the happiest? - that'll be the top brass at Red Bull who will be delighted at a clear pecking order emerging between their drivers, delaying any need to intervene for the time being. Of the leading protagonists then, Webber will be the most disappointed. This is a circuit where he has to top Vettel if he is to challenge Red Bull's inner desire to have him do a Massa (that's the only mention he gets here).

Alonso looked untidy. His preference for understeer on turn-in does not suit this circuit; and I think it only fair to say that he finds it very difficult to alter his style. Thus, Ferrari have been out-performed by an emergent McLaren team and must be scratching a few heads. In my opinion, the root of the problem is not one of design. It is a philosophy which results in their drivers not working well as a team (in terms of development). Alonso wants to do it all himself but he actually needs a bit of help from a compliant patsy rather than a disillusioned, de-motivated foot-stool.

4th best are Mercedes but they have been routed by Lotus Renault with Petrov doing an industrial job and Heidfeld showing what he's worth. Schumacher in 11th place has the advantage of choice of set-up unavailable to Rosberg in 9th.

jains15

1,013 posts

202 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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xr287 said:
I think only Hamilton is truely better than Button. Vettel is certainly faster over one flying lap but he can't race, adapt and make strategy calls like Button and Webber is just nowhere near as good all round as Jenson.
There, fixed that for you smile

Mini1275

11,098 posts

211 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Well if there's a point to this thread I'm completely missing it confused.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Mini1275 said:
What is the point in this thread exactly?.
I think it was for the OP to declare his undying love for Jenson! smile

freedman

6,015 posts

236 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Kneetrembler said:
Disagree with that comment especially as he has been World Champion and Webber still has to prove himself !
There are plenty of drivers who havent won world champoionships who had far more talent than some of those that did (not aimed at Button)

Murph7355

41,955 posts

285 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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xr287 said:
...Vettel is certainly faster over one flying lap but he can't race, adapt and make strategy calls like Button ...
The same Vettel who won the WDC last season? The rest of the field better watch out when he does learn these things (I agree, he has much to learn. But he's 23).

The same Vettel who drove past Button like the latter was standing still in the last race? Despite Button not being able to do the same to Massa (an inferior driver in a demonstrably slower car).

I like Button a lot. Am glad he won the WDC. Even though the technical advantage his car had in the first half of the season was the main reason for that.

I was pleasantly surprised that he was as close as he was to LH last season, but let's not kid ourselves. LH was the better of the two.

I would really, really like JB to contend for the championship this year. But I'm not convinced that'll happen. LH is learning a lot, I think with the help of Button. And he'll be the one in with a shout at the end of the season with MW and JB battling it out for 3rd.

hotmelt

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861 posts

202 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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LH vs JB in the same cars is one of the main attractions of todays F1, so why not?

DSM2

3,624 posts

229 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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hotmelt said:
LH vs JB in the same cars is one of the main attractions of todays F1, so why not?
Is it? To you maybe.

YourMother

29 posts

188 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Lewis is faster and more talented then Jenson.

In top gear
In F1
and in go karting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBE4zdhZwQI

RJB_666

1,677 posts

224 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Jenson and Lewis are completely different drivers. Jenson is smooth and consistent and Lewis is fast and aggressive. Jenson will rarely crash but could be lacking 3 tenths that Lewis doesn't. I don't see why we're arguing over this. We have such talented British drivers.