30% off new cars on the quiet
30% off new cars on the quiet
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k-ink

Original Poster:

9,070 posts

208 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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We had a letter come through from a main dealer for one of our cars. They are offering between 25% and 30% off new models for current owners only. Sounds like a very good deal. I guess they are feeling a little desperate to shift stock. Yet clearly they don't want to send out the wrong signals to the public, so they keep it quiet via letter rather than blatantly advertising it everywhere.

It made me wonder how many other dealers are doing this? Anyone else been offered crazy deals on the quiet by letter? Makes haggling for 5% or 10% seem pathetic! Sign of the times I guess.

Andyuk911

1,979 posts

238 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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I Love Lamp

2,664 posts

204 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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It's marketing.

You PX your current car, they give you an OK price, stating that you're saving 30% off the new car, then resell yours for a huge mark up.

Honda and BMW have both done this to me, along with "We're running short on used cars, we can give you a great deal on a PX".

vladcjelli

3,370 posts

187 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Don't be shy, who are we talking about, and which models?

k-ink

Original Poster:

9,070 posts

208 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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I won't post up any more details as it wouldn't seem fair to broadcast the contents of a letter without consent.

However I was just curious as to whether this situation may be more common than you'd think.



Anyone else...?

McSam

6,753 posts

204 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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As has been said, it's not as good a deal as you'd expect. They've got you exactly the way they wanted to, methinks wink

Since you're a current owner, they've got an excellent and unquestionable reason to take your car as PX, and since they're offering you such a good deal you're unlikely to question the price they offer you for it. Then it reappears on the forecourt marked up, uh, quite considerably, and once this difference has been taken off you still only have the same sort of discount you would've got by walking in and haggling well.

That's what the cynic in me says, anyway biggrin it seems more like a clever way to keep the current customer base feeling happy and valued while not actually losing any money doing so.

10JH

2,070 posts

223 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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Are they offering that % off all new cars, or just some models?

Could just be that, say they're a Ford dealer, that they're offering unregistered models of the old Focus at a great deal, as the new one has just been released.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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Local Skoda dealership is doing brand new Octavia 1.6 SE for £9995. List price is £14700.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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May well be, but it's still a hell of a lot of car for £10k.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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Same old 1.6MPI they've been using in the Octavia forever. Then again, they're still shipping the 1.9TDI-105 in new Octavias, that's probably a better bet.

Ari

19,814 posts

244 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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McSam said:
Since you're a current owner, they've got an excellent and unquestionable reason to take your car as PX, and since they're offering you such a good deal you're unlikely to question the price they offer you for it. Then it reappears on the forecourt marked up, uh, quite considerably, and once this difference has been taken off you still only have the same sort of discount you would've got by walking in and haggling well.
So what's stopping him selling his car privately or going to a second-hand dealer and selling for cash and then buying with 30% off?

More likely the cars in question are 20% too dear in the first place so what they're really doing is offering a 5-10% discount off of what the new cars should be for sale at.

Targeting existing owners makes sense as they're most willing to believe that their car is worth the premium price and that the discount is real.

Prince Jefri

1,971 posts

198 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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k-ink said:
I won't post up any more details as it wouldn't seem fair to broadcast the contents of a letter without consent.


Anyone else...?
A bit of a non-story then.

.......If they are sending the letter out to random owners, the numbers of letters being sent out would more than likely be in the 1000's.

k-ink

Original Poster:

9,070 posts

208 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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I wasn't posting this up to generate an interesting story. I was simply enquiring if anyone else has received similar letters in the post for huge discounts from main dealers. FWIW, it's a more premium brand than Ford etc.

No part exchange was offered. It was simple black and white print out of the RRP and the offered price: 25% off the £100k models, 30% off the £30k models. With all the other models in between at the same discounts of around 30% or so.


I just didn't realize this level of discount would be entertained. I thought 10% would be good!

poo at Paul's

14,611 posts

204 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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k-ink said:
I won't post up any more details as it wouldn't seem fair to broadcast the contents of a letter without consent.
Gheyer laugh

Did the letter not self destruct within 5 seconds.........?

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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anonymous said:
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Both are very old engines dating back to the 90s. IIRC 1.9 TDI is no longer available in any VAG cars, and the 1.6 MPI is only available in a few models whilst stocks last. The replacements are the 1.6 TDI CR and 1.2 TSI.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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The local dealership has newly built 1.9TDI Octavias. Still in their wrappers. They've obviously been sitting somewhere in a field, but they are the latest facelift Octavia so couldn't have been built very long ago.

iOversteer

1,076 posts

210 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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HellDiver said:
Local Skoda dealership is doing brand new Octavia 1.6 SE for £9995. List price is £14700.
The 1.6 MPI isn't that great of an engine (102ps I believe). However 25% off list price is not bad, £10,995 for the hatch and £11,995 for the estate, before you add on any extras which will be available. Also Skoda were fitting 17" alloys and sport suspension for nothing. If only you could get the TSI engine instead, as it is cheaper to run and much better overall imo.

Fast Bug

13,556 posts

190 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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Either the dealer has registered some vehicles to hit targets (and back end bonuses) and wants to shift the stock, or they're being naughty and using fleet terms. If it's the latter then they could be in for slapped wrists if they get caught!

There are some silly fleet discounts out there, I know that for the right customer/deal you can get over 20% off BMW 3 series. Ford/Vauxhall/Citroen do silly deals as well!

Wing Commander

2,220 posts

261 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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In the past, I have done some mystery shopping pretending to buy cars. Basic idea is I try to get the best price I can, at various, pre-assigned dealerships on certain cars.

Saab and Vauxhall have both offered me 1/3 off list price before now on most models. This was about a year ago

HTH smile

Fast Bug

13,556 posts

190 months

Monday 11th April 2011
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Wing Commander said:
In the past, I have done some mystery shopping pretending to buy cars. Basic idea is I try to get the best price I can, at various, pre-assigned dealerships on certain cars.

Saab and Vauxhall have both offered me 1/3 off list price before now on most models. This was about a year ago

HTH smile
I hope you have intentions of buying a car, or do you just like wasting peoples time?