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Bob_Defly

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5,851 posts

260 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Not trying to live up to Clarkson's expectations, I really do like Alfa's, and I really do want to own one at some point. Is there any old Alfa that is even remotely reliable, AND interesting to drive? (so preferably with the V6 noise)

Boba Fret

438 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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loads of them.

carlove

7,909 posts

196 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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I think with Alfa's (and any car) its often you have good luck or bad luck with it.

kevin63

4,661 posts

282 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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I've just watched Edd China doing up an old Alfa on Wheeler Dealers this afternoon, didn't seem too much wrong with that one.

Bob_Defly

Original Poster:

5,851 posts

260 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Can anyone recommend any specific model for me to check out?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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GTV V6.

Boba Fret

438 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Bob_Defly said:
Can anyone recommend any specific model for me to check out?
156/147GTA
156 V6 (Though can be a tad 'bland)
155 V6
GTV V6
Spider V6 (either 3.0l) ( or later 3.2 facelift, very rare though)
GT 3.2
166 3.2 (don't even THINK about the 166 2.5. Wayyyyy too underpowered for that car. The 3.0l JUST about does it ok)

braddo

12,294 posts

217 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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If you go pre-1972 you avoid the cars that rust the worst (Soviet steel was used in the 70s) but that means you don't get the V6. They will still rust just like any car of that age though (which is all of them).

The 105 series (Giulias) are the sweet spot in my opinion, for being great fun to drive but also modern enough to live with. Coupes, saloon and spider form. Websites like alfaholics.com and classicalfa.com have picture galleries and cars for sale that you can get an idea from.


Markytop

637 posts

248 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Check out the 166 3.0 V6 Super. Big 4 door saloon, but with the proper Alfa V6 (as opposed to the not quite so proper 3.2 V6 wink )

Can pick a good early one up for 1500 quid, and a cracker for about 2K. Lots of comfort and relaxed motorway work and that glorious noise just a flex of the foot away. Go for manual rather than auto (as perversely its the german bits in the gearbox and electronics make it more prone to being unreliable).

Bought the one below myself a couple of months ago and absolutely love it.


Boba Fret

438 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Markytop said:
Check out the 166 3.0 V6 Super. Big 4 door saloon, but with the proper Alfa V6 (as opposed to the not quite so proper 3.2 V6 wink )
Errrrrm. Where do you think the 3.2 came from?

It's the same Busso design that was in production right up to the horrible GM based ones.

Just the 3.0l is a tad smaller capacity. (and somewhat de-tuned compared to the GTA versions)



Markytop

637 posts

248 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Boba Fret said:
Markytop said:
Check out the 166 3.0 V6 Super. Big 4 door saloon, but with the proper Alfa V6 (as opposed to the not quite so proper 3.2 V6 wink )
Errrrrm. Where do you think the 3.2 came from?

It's the same Busso design that was in production right up to the horrible GM based ones.

Just the 3.0l is a tad smaller capacity. (and somewhat de-tuned compared to the GTA versions)
Happy to be corrected, but I thought the move to 3.2 signified the move to the GM block?

utgjon

713 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Boba Fret said:
Errrrrm. Where do you think the 3.2 came from?

It's the same Busso design that was in production right up to the horrible GM based ones.

Just the 3.0l is a tad smaller capacity. (and somewhat de-tuned compared to the GTA versions)
correct.

Busso V6 came in 3.2 guise as well as the GM 3.2

Personally I'd check out a GTV, but i'm biased wink

Boba Fret

438 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Markytop said:
Happy to be corrected, but I thought the move to 3.2 signified the move to the GM block?
Sadly the 3.2 (pre GM ones) was the final swansong of that GREAT GREAT engine frown

Featured in many an alfa from 2.0l up to some seriously tuned 3.7/3.9l supercharged lumps


Markytop

637 posts

248 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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utgjon said:
correct.

Busso V6 came in 3.2 guise as well as the GM 3.2

Personally I'd check out a GTV, but i'm biased wink
When was the cross over between the two?

And bugger, this news means I could have one with a bit more power biggrin

Boba Fret

438 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Marky, the 3.2 in the 166 only came in the 'facelift' version (along with the 'facelift 916 GTVs and 916 Spiders) and GTs

GTA was out of production by then

difference powerwise between the 3.0l and 'normal' (ie non GTA) 3.2s isn't a lot really so no need to lose sleep!

Besides, a 3.2 166 would be nowhere NEAR what you paid for your fine example!!!!!

ETA: Just looked on classifieds here, cheapest 3.2 166 is £6.5k

Edited by Boba Fret on Tuesday 12th April 18:52

TRUENOSAM

763 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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I would reccomend one of thesee. I own one and love it (altough mine is the 2.0 TS) it is honestly great fun to drive to my annoyance as its one of the cheapest cars I have ever owned. Oh and it has never let me down. Go for the widebody too

This is my 155 but you can find the 2.5 V6 just as easily



Boba Fret

438 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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TRUENOSAM said:
I would reccomend one of thesee. I own one and love it (altough mine is the 2.0 TS) it is honestly great fun to drive to my annoyance as its one of the cheapest cars I have ever owned. Oh and it has never let me down. Go for the widebody too

This is my 155 but you can find the 2.5 V6 just as easily


Nice one there!

(widebody V6 155s are just a tad more rare than the 2.0l ones though)

Boba Fret

438 posts

185 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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my old V6......

shouldbworking

4,801 posts

241 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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Bob_Defly

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260 months

Tuesday 12th April 2011
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I do love 155's, proper touring car races!