Average speed cameras....
Average speed cameras....
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Kiltox

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14,863 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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If you join a stretch of motorway with average speed cameras due to roadworks do you speed until the first camera ?

Regularly see people doing it and can't help but think doing 70+ into traffic that is doing 40 +/- 10% isnt a good idea

sharpfocus

13,868 posts

220 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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No, I don't stop speeding past the cameras. hehe

Richardsix

151 posts

193 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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Average speed cameras, surely if they were that good they would be above average.

rossw46

1,293 posts

189 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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sharpfocus said:
No, I don't stop speeding past the cameras. hehe
This...and I get away with it by making sure I change lanes before getting to the next camera.I do this because TG said it works,so it must (I think).

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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To a certain degree this is true. The SPECS cameras are not home office aproved to communicate between lanes. Therefore, in theory you can change lanes between cameras and not get caught as the cameras can't "talk" to each other. However, there is a flaw in this theory. The cameras work in pairs and it is impossible to know which ones are paired with subsequent cameras further down the road. So even though you change lanes you may inadvertantly end up getting caught.

But to the original question - yes you can continue at whatever speed you want until the first camera. It is only when you go past the first one that you are in the average speed zone.

torqueofthedevil

2,088 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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I've heard these techniques and they seem to work for ppl. Would never risk it personally! U see some ppl flying down! Not worth it. Ppl exaggerate how much they slow u down. There are 13 miles on the a1m and ppl will say that it adds half an hour to your journey time!! Ha ha do the maths. It takes much less than half an hour to drive through it so even if that section of road wasn't there u wouldn't save half an hour, Nevermind just driving it an extra 20 - 30 mph quicker

Kiltox

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14,863 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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I know you CAN fly up to the first camera, my point is if you join half way through the roadworks it is pretty dangerous to do so imo

Kiltox

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14,863 posts

187 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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I know you CAN fly up to the first camera, my point is if you join half way through the roadworks it is pretty dangerous to do so imo

rossw46

1,293 posts

189 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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bmw535i said:
To a certain degree this is true. The SPECS cameras are not home office aproved to communicate between lanes. Therefore, in theory you can change lanes between cameras and not get caught as the cameras can't "talk" to each other. However, there is a flaw in this theory. The cameras work in pairs and it is impossible to know which ones are paired with subsequent cameras further down the road. So even though you change lanes you may inadvertantly end up getting caught.

But to the original question - yes you can continue at whatever speed you want until the first camera. It is only when you go past the first one that you are in the average speed zone.
Yea,I did actually think it was the case,as I'd read it elsewhere too.I don't do it because I simply wouldn't take the chance.

I was also thinking beforehand about the cameras working in pairs...and I assume from your post that the cameras could be paired like (for example) 1&4 , 2&5 , 3&6 etc,and so even if changing lanes you could be unlucky and end up in the wrong lane and get done?

Edit - I've just re-read your post,and yes it seems that is what you mean,my bad!


Edited by rossw46 on Wednesday 13th April 21:43

miniman

30,042 posts

291 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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bmw535i said:
To a certain degree this is true. The SPECS cameras are not home office aproved to communicate between lanes. Therefore, in theory you can change lanes between cameras and not get caught as the cameras can't "talk" to each other. However, there is a flaw in this theory. The cameras work in pairs and it is impossible to know which ones are paired with subsequent cameras further down the road. So even though you change lanes you may inadvertantly end up getting caught.

But to the original question - yes you can continue at whatever speed you want until the first camera. It is only when you go past the first one that you are in the average speed zone.
They weren't originally type approved for multiple lanes, but they are now, and have been for several years.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
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They are multilane now and have been for quite some time. I recall at the time when they changed it did state changing lane could avoid getting caught they left out the pairing bit though.

I just put cruise on never get caught and where I drive it would be very difficult in trying to go faster as all lanes are doing the same. Still I have seen on quiet days some idiots not slow at all... Possibly the same sort of person who does 45mph everywhere on a and b roads even through 30mph zones I guess they get a nice fine whenever they attempt it and don't understand what they have done wrong.

Stuart J

1,301 posts

286 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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bmw535i said:
To a certain degree this is true. The SPECS cameras are not home office aproved to communicate between lanes. Therefore, in theory you can change lanes between cameras and not get caught as the cameras can't "talk" to each other. However, there is a flaw in this theory. The cameras work in pairs and it is impossible to know which ones are paired with subsequent cameras further down the road. So even though you change lanes you may inadvertantly end up getting caught.

But to the original question - yes you can continue at whatever speed you want until the first camera. It is only when you go past the first one that you are in the average speed zone.
Single lane theory dosent hold true now

Re pairing you will spot at night some cameras have the road ahead of them lit up by floodlights that look as though they are for the workers, theres a bit of a clue there !!!

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Stuart J said:
Single lane theory dosent hold true now

Re pairing you will spot at night some cameras have the road ahead of them lit up by floodlights that look as though they are for the workers, theres a bit of a clue there !!!
So I gather - best bet is just to stick the cruise control at the speed limit + 10% I guess

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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bmw535i said:
So I gather - best bet is just to stick the cruise control at the speed limit + 10% I guess
But then you have to adjust it as others use their speedo's exactly.

I wish I had the adaptive cruise control on new BMW's which slows you and accelerates you to your speed by keeping the dstance to the car infront constant.

Kiltox

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14,863 posts

187 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Welshbeef said:
I wish I had the adaptive cruise control on new BMW's which slows you and accelerates you to your speed by keeping the dstance to the car infront constant.
yes - can't wait until that kind of thing is available on peasant cars. (but then I discovered yesterday I don't even have coat hooks in my car, so I might have a while to wait hehe)

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Welshbeef said:
bmw535i said:
So I gather - best bet is just to stick the cruise control at the speed limit + 10% I guess
But then you have to adjust it as others use their speedo's exactly.

I wish I had the adaptive cruise control on new BMW's which slows you and accelerates you to your speed by keeping the dstance to the car infront constant.
Although you could just do the normal BMW thing and put as many lights on as possible and force things out of the outside lane