Twingo RS... Cup or no Cup?
Twingo RS... Cup or no Cup?
Author
Discussion

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
So I'm looking at Twingo 133's at the moment and was subsequently wondering which chassis type people would reccomend?

I've seen in pretty much all the reviews that the Cup chassis option really does transform the car and making it much better in the corners, however this is at the expense of the ride, which is said to be much better in the standard 133 non-Cup.

I normally would have just looked exclusively at Cups being a petrolhead and all, but with my sensible hat on and considering the state of the roads at the moment with rubbish surfaces and potholes galore, having 17" rims and fairly stiff suspension makes me somewhat apprehensive about wether it will make the car skittish in the corners as well as wether the 17" rims and low profile tyres will be susceptible to buckling in the event of hitting a bigger hole.

Any help much appreciated!

TIA doodles.

AshRS250

516 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
Cup!! End of thread!!!

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
Judging by your screen name I presume you have a Megane 250r (cup?) do you not find it slightly too stiff for bumpy backroads and potholed B roads?

poing

8,743 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
I test drove the cup and was actually amazed at how soft it was, but boy could it produce some grip too. The other half didn't like the lack of toys though (and it was a car for her) so in the end we went for a GT. That was 6 months ago and now she's decided she'd like an RS afterall...

If you can live without the extra toys then go for the Cup for sure and head for the B roads!

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
poing said:
I test drove the cup and was actually amazed at how soft it was, but boy could it produce some grip too. The other half didn't like the lack of toys though (and it was a car for her) so in the end we went for a GT. That was 6 months ago and now she's decided she'd like an RS afterall...

If you can live without the extra toys then go for the Cup for sure and head for the B roads!
Sorry guys, by the cup, I meant the 133 with the Cup chassis option, definitely need some air con for the hotter weather!

Edited by doodles19 on Wednesday 13th April 22:16

Glade

4,513 posts

252 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
I think that the Twingo has the same chassis as the 182...

Our 182 is full fat, with cup packs - it's quite firm, but no worse than an S-Line Audi for example.

If you're going to get a Renaultsport you may as well go all the way and get the cup packs!!

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
Glade said:
I think that the Twingo has the same chassis as the 182...

Our 182 is full fat, with cup packs - it's quite firm, but no worse than an S-Line Audi for example.

If you're going to get a Renaultsport you may as well go all the way and get the cup packs!!
Yep pretty much the same chassis I believe, I'm just slightly worried about it with the state of the roads, considering one of my friends just had to buy a new rim for her VXR due to a pot-hole incident.

Waugh-terfall

18,488 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
I'd be going for a white Full-Fat Twingo with Cup Pack, just because I'd want the cup chassis and wheels with a few of the nice toys. You're Portsmouth, right?

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
Waugh-terfall said:
I'd be going for a white Full-Fat Twingo with Cup Pack, just because I'd want the cup chassis and wheels with a few of the nice toys. You're Portsmouth, right?
Full fat 133 with the Cup chassis seems like the optimal choice from where I'm sitting as well. I do like the slightly mauvey colour they do though!



And yeah Portsmouth for some of my time.

jsg612

571 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
In 2009 when I ordered my Twingo RS133, I went for the fully loaded, full fat, non-cup version, although slightly more expensive, I think well worth it. It was still stiff enough to get on three-wheels backing out of the driveway, but not as harsh as the cup. I've driven a few cups and the tyres are absolutely tiny, suspension harsh and the road noise terrible. From an aesthetics point of view, I also preferred the look of the 16" wheels with chunkier tyres, not only making the brakes look bigger, but a chunkier stance to the car.

Both versions are excellent and you wont be disappointed, just be sure to remove the bung out of the airbox to unleash that awesome RenaultSport sound track. If you need any more info, let me know, I owned both the Twingo GT and Twingo RS previously.

Also, a bit random but the RS was absolutely excellent in the snow, never got caught out once. The traction control is excellent and has the ability to be fully de-activated at the flick of a switch when the mood takes you.

Finally, mine was Mirage Grey, it's a lovely colour in the flesh.

Why did I sell mine? It was just too tempting to make that lovely noise with the engine! I now drive a diesel... I guess I'll get my hat! smile ENJOY!

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
jsg612 said:
Both versions are excellent and you wont be disappointed, just be sure to remove the bung out of the airbox to unleash that awesome RenaultSport sound track. If you need any more info, let me know, I owned both the Twingo GT and Twingo RS previously.
Removing the rubber bung is the first on my to-do list if all goes to plan at the dealers! biggrin

Ta for the info!

Did you find it difficult getting used to the digital speedometer?

jsg612

571 posts

197 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
doodles19 said:
Removing the rubber bung is the first on my to-do list if all goes to plan at the dealers! biggrin

Ta for the info!

Did you find it difficult getting used to the digital speedometer?
No probs!

Not at all, if anything it is more accurate for passing through speed cameras etc. I've had two Twingo's and my current Megane Coupe with digital readouts, and my previous Clio was a traditional speedo, no problem changing between them.

I guess another advantage of the digital readout is you can flick it over to KM/H somewhere in the menu if you decide to drive on the continent - avoids possible confusion anyway.

Let us know how you get on!

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

232 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
My Brother In Law has a cup 133, it really is very good, I haven't driven the non cup version, however I can see any advantage in it whatsoever.

Superb little machine, his is white with gloss black wheels and spoilers. Looks great and goes even better thumbup

Waugh-terfall

18,488 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
doodles19 said:
Waugh-terfall said:
I'd be going for a white Full-Fat Twingo with Cup Pack, just because I'd want the cup chassis and wheels with a few of the nice toys. You're Portsmouth, right?
Full fat 133 with the Cup chassis seems like the optimal choice from where I'm sitting as well. I do like the slightly mauvey colour they do though!



And yeah Portsmouth for some of my time.
Good stuff, yeah, that's quite nice, red is tempting too... I was going to say, Home for me is 30mins from Portsmouth, if/when you get it, we could meet up for a hoon and find somewhere decent and I'll see what I can do with my camera on it for you thumbup

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
jsg612 said:
No probs!

Not at all, if anything it is more accurate for passing through speed cameras etc. I've had two Twingo's and my current Megane Coupe with digital readouts, and my previous Clio was a traditional speedo, no problem changing between them.

I guess another advantage of the digital readout is you can flick it over to KM/H somewhere in the menu if you decide to drive on the continent - avoids possible confusion anyway.

Let us know how you get on!
Ahh cheers, you have dispelled one of my main fears!

The Km/h switchover could really come in handy as well!

I'll let you guys know what happens smile


Waugh-terfall said:
Good stuff, yeah, that's quite nice, red is tempting too... I was going to say, Home for me is 30mins from Portsmouth, if/when you get it, we could meet up for a hoon and find somewhere decent and I'll see what I can do with my camera on it for you thumbup
Ahh excellent!

Yeah if/when I'll send you a PM and we'll arrange something, when are you normally about?

Waugh-terfall

18,488 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th April 2011
quotequote all
doodles19 said:
Ahh excellent!

Yeah if/when I'll send you a PM and we'll arrange something, when are you normally about?
Sure sure, I'm always about out of term time. As soon as term ends or I get a reading week, I'm back here.

vx220

2,725 posts

263 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
quotequote all
looked at these a while ago, think i'd go for the cup pack but try and keep the 16"s if that's possible? the slightly higher profile would smooth the ride and protect the rims from pot-holes, and 195/40/17 is almost a unique size to the twingo rs making it a very expensive tyre last time i looked!

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
quotequote all
vx220 said:
looked at these a while ago, think i'd go for the cup pack but try and keep the 16"s if that's possible? the slightly higher profile would smooth the ride and protect the rims from pot-holes, and 195/40/17 is almost a unique size to the twingo rs making it a very expensive tyre last time i looked!
Oh really!!

That is interesting, any idea whether its just the profile of the tyre that changes with the cup pack or is it the width as well?

doodles19

Original Poster:

2,201 posts

202 months

Friday 15th April 2011
quotequote all
Ordered a 133 with the Cup pack...












biggrintongue outbeerbiglaughbounceclapwobblewaveyyesparty

















Waugh-terfall

18,488 posts

229 months

Friday 15th April 2011
quotequote all
doodles19 said:
Ordered a 133 with the Cup pack...


biggrintongue outbeerbiglaughbounceclapwobblewaveyyesparty
Ordered..?

A. Where from? Aaaand B. What spec? clap