4.0 L - Sensible rev limit?
4.0 L - Sensible rev limit?
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Rossco2010

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133 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Quick question - what's a sensible rev limit for a properly warmed up, 4.0l in decent nick?

I think I'm probably changing up too early (3.5 -4k) when "pressing on" but don't want to thrash it (or spend the money on consequences of thrashing it!)

Cheers

blueg33

46,861 posts

255 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Rossco2010 said:
Quick question - what's a sensible rev limit for a properly warmed up, 4.0l in decent nick?

I think I'm probably changing up too early (3.5 -4k) when "pressing on" but don't want to thrash it (or spend the money on consequences of thrashing it!)

Cheers
I think I had mine set at about 5250 (hope I haven't remembered wrongly), and it revved up to that very quickly. They do run out of puff at the top of the rev range

edited - I definitely got that wrong! Mark (Blitzracing) may remember as he had a copy of my map.

In my experience the 4.0l and 3.9 rev more freely than the larger capacity engines, I was always hitting the limiter especially in 2nd and 3rd.


Edited by blueg33 on Thursday 14th April 21:34

.Mark

11,104 posts

307 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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I think the rev limiter does vary for some reason, I've rarely hit the rev limiter, and have seen the needle pass 5500, but it's running out of steam about 5k or just after I think.

v8 racing

2,064 posts

282 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Rossco2010 said:
Quick question - what's a sensible rev limit for a properly warmed up, 4.0l in decent nick?

I think I'm probably changing up too early (3.5 -4k) when "pressing on" but don't want to thrash it (or spend the money on consequences of thrashing it!)

Cheers
3.5-4.0? really, if you ever decide to have an engine rebuild i will warrant it for life!!, seriously you are more than safe to 5.5.

Rossco2010

Original Poster:

133 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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v8 racing said:
3.5-4.0? really, if you ever decide to have an engine rebuild i will warrant it for life!!, seriously you are more than safe to 5.5.
Yeah - 2 reasons:
1) Its my first v8, not had it that long, so didn't want to b*gger it
2) I drive like a blouse!

Thanks for that, will definitely push it a bit further.

Cheers

.Mark

11,104 posts

307 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Rossco2010 said:
Thanks for that, will definitely push it a bit further.

Cheers
And make sure you do biggrin We will all be listening.

It only really begins to roar at 3.5k.

bigdods

7,175 posts

258 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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IIRC my 450 has the rev limit set at 6200 , but it runs out of puff at about 5500. But I often take it to 6k just to hear the noise.....

I would call changing at 4k short shifting as its right in the optimum power band, its where I change when I'm not in a hurry.

Andy_mr2sc

1,236 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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I often have mine in the 6k+ area just because it makes such a fantastic noise with a sleeved exhaust and no cats!!

mgjc

129 posts

207 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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4.0l is 6250

Tyre Tread

10,696 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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mgjc said:
4.0l is 6250
Yep, that's where mine is.

I've hit the limiter a couple of times.

Generally I change up about 5K ish

dog man

552 posts

233 months

Friday 15th April 2011
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Hmmm all you revv'ers out there mocking me with your abilty to revv at wil to 6k! lol

Yep I was the same with mine, took the RPM's very gently at first for many reasons but among them were; not wanting to crash...! and feeling a bit strange at the thought of revving a pushrod v8 to 6,000 RPM.

Now some 9 months on and also thanks to my mate and his s2000 I've started employing what I like to think of as tasteful thrashing! hahaha

So nothing too crazy..'til warm - and that's the oil temp not just coolant - M5 ownership showed me how much longer oil takes to reach temperature but yeah, there's definitely another surge like the one you get between 3,000 - 4,000 rpm up at around 5,000.

Yeah they run out of puff, well peak BHP is at 5,250 IIRC so you gotta go at least to there!

I cant say it gives me the impression that it's pointless going to 6,000 though in fact on the rare occasions that my engine lets me (my misfire thread is on here somewhere) I have discovered that they sure sound good at high RPM's!

Rossco2010

Original Poster:

133 posts

199 months

Monday 18th April 2011
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Well said lads. Gritted my teeth and got on with it at the weekend; went right up throughout the revs.

First impressions? Fook me! Different car driven a bit harder. Lovely!

Cheers

taylormj4

1,635 posts

297 months

Monday 18th April 2011
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bigdods said:
IIRC my 450 has the rev limit set at 6200 , but it runs out of puff at about 5500. But I often take it to 6k just to hear the noise.....

I would call changing at 4k short shifting as its right in the optimum power band, its where I change when I'm not in a hurry.
Lol, awesome! When you're not in a hurry ?! I change up at 2k when I'm not in a hurry, 4k is hurrying but wanting to be nice to the engine, 5k is if I'm wanting that TVR-feeling but never gone past 5.5k. It just sounds wrong, like the engine / car is going to destroy itself. Ha haa, maybe I should just wear ear-defenders. Second thoughts, stuff that !

Can't say that I get bursts of power though as it goes up through the rev range, once above 2k, my 450 just pulls pretty much constantly through the rev range. Is that unusual ?
Matt

pwd95

8,459 posts

269 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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scratchchin Mine positively tears up to 6k rpm under full throttle. wobble The rev limiter is a real let down quite often. yes

900T-R

20,406 posts

288 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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I found that my rev limiter is 'somewhere' between 6.5 and 8K when my throttle cable decided to stick at WOT paperbag

DISCLAIMER - this is not a standard engine, don't try this at home, no actual engine internals were hurt blah blah blah

V8FROG

444 posts

192 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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i like ur disclaimer comment,very helpful
900T-R said:
I found that my rev limiter is 'somewhere' between 6.5 and 8K when my throttle cable decided to stick at WOT paperbag

DISCLAIMER - this is not a standard engine, don't try this at home, no actual engine internals were hurt blah blah blah

.Mark

11,104 posts

307 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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Rossco2010 said:
Well said lads. Gritted my teeth and got on with it at the weekend; went right up throughout the revs.

First impressions? Fook me! Different car driven a bit harder. Lovely!

Cheers
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scotty_d

6,795 posts

225 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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My 400 would pull well up to around 6k after that it runs out of puff then hit the limiter. Cerb on the other hand very hard to use all revs on the road.

BillC99

348 posts

191 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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My 4.0l hits the limiter at 5750. Is that normal? If others seem to get 6000+ maybe there is something amiss?

blueg33

46,861 posts

255 months

Tuesday 19th April 2011
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BillC99 said:
My 4.0l hits the limiter at 5750. Is that normal? If others seem to get 6000+ maybe there is something amiss?
Range Rover map?