Do airliners come with a set of keys?
Discussion
john_p said:
No, but you can't really just jump in and drive off in one either 
that's assuming you can get to and onto the aircraft in the first place.
Smaller stuff usually does, but have the sort of locks you could turn with a screwdriver..
Yep I'm sure its not a simple job to start the big ones, I just have this image of the Captain turning the ignition on and waiting for the glow-plug lights to go out before starting her up that's assuming you can get to and onto the aircraft in the first place.Smaller stuff usually does, but have the sort of locks you could turn with a screwdriver..
I daresay you could give it a good go at somewhere which was quieter at night
Anywhere busy, even as a trained pilot, I reckon you'd get as far as the APU onlining before the 'men with guns' arrive and a few fire engines blocked you in
Also you probably have the problem that the aircraft is parked nose-in
Anywhere busy, even as a trained pilot, I reckon you'd get as far as the APU onlining before the 'men with guns' arrive and a few fire engines blocked you in
Also you probably have the problem that the aircraft is parked nose-in
mrloudly said:
I thought Thomson were waiting for the dream on liner? I know Boeing are doing loads of up-grades for them
on the back of the delays.
Mate of mine is just ferrying a load of wealthy Americans around Europe in a specially prepared Thomson jet
AFAIK the current aim is to run a fleet of 738s and 787s. New 738s are arriving as replacements for older 733s and also to replace the 757 and A320s when they're retired or phased out. I think there are 4 new 738s coming this year, although I could be wrong.on the back of the delays.
Mate of mine is just ferrying a load of wealthy Americans around Europe in a specially prepared Thomson jet
The real Apache said:
pushthebutton said:
A friend picked up a new Boeing from Seattle a few weeks ago.
They gave him a set of keys. I doubt they fit anything though!
flight deck door probably....I recall Victor K2 tankers had a yale lock fitted to the crew access doorThey gave him a set of keys. I doubt they fit anything though!
The now defunct Southend aircraft museum had a Blackburn Beverley C1.
On a visit there I got talking to one of the staff. He said that they had recently had an incident and told me the following story. I have always wondered if it was true, or the guy was winding me up.
This aircraft had been flown into situ, its airframe almost out of hours. You could go in the Beverly and sit at the controls, which were still operational.
A lad who was a member of the ATC had paid a visit. He had read up on the Beverly and was showing off his knowledge of pre-flight checks to his mates. Unfortunately the museum was a bit lax in those early days. They wired a transformer to the batteries and relied upon the aircrafts own internal lighting for visitors to see.
Since the aircraft had flown in there was still a little fuel in the tanks, which nobody had thought to drain. In those halcyon days the emphasis was on efficiency, not safety. Health & Safety was an almost unheard of cloud on the horizon. We had Health & Efficiency instead and were all the happier, healthier and far more efficient for it. I digress.
With the batteries kept charged and fuel in the tanks, the lad managed to start the engines. Not anticipating it would ever need proper chocks, they had stuck some silly little ones under it and it ran over them.
Construction had started on the museum building. There was no longer sufficient room for take-off.
Fortunately the lad also knew how to shut it down. He managed to get it stopped just in time. The museum put it back, drained the fuel and disconnected the starters.
Has anyone heard of this incident?
On a visit there I got talking to one of the staff. He said that they had recently had an incident and told me the following story. I have always wondered if it was true, or the guy was winding me up.
This aircraft had been flown into situ, its airframe almost out of hours. You could go in the Beverly and sit at the controls, which were still operational.
A lad who was a member of the ATC had paid a visit. He had read up on the Beverly and was showing off his knowledge of pre-flight checks to his mates. Unfortunately the museum was a bit lax in those early days. They wired a transformer to the batteries and relied upon the aircrafts own internal lighting for visitors to see.
Since the aircraft had flown in there was still a little fuel in the tanks, which nobody had thought to drain. In those halcyon days the emphasis was on efficiency, not safety. Health & Safety was an almost unheard of cloud on the horizon. We had Health & Efficiency instead and were all the happier, healthier and far more efficient for it. I digress.
With the batteries kept charged and fuel in the tanks, the lad managed to start the engines. Not anticipating it would ever need proper chocks, they had stuck some silly little ones under it and it ran over them.
Construction had started on the museum building. There was no longer sufficient room for take-off.
Fortunately the lad also knew how to shut it down. He managed to get it stopped just in time. The museum put it back, drained the fuel and disconnected the starters.
Has anyone heard of this incident?
Uncle Fester said:
The now defunct Southend aircraft museum had a Blackburn Beverley C1.
On a visit there I got talking to one of the staff. He said that they had recently had an incident and told me the following story. I have always wondered if it was true, or the guy was winding me up.
This aircraft had been flown into situ, its airframe almost out of hours. You could go in the Beverly and sit at the controls, which were still operational.
A lad who was a member of the ATC had paid a visit. He had read up on the Beverly and was showing off his knowledge of pre-flight checks to his mates. Unfortunately the museum was a bit lax in those early days. They wired a transformer to the batteries and relied upon the aircrafts own internal lighting for visitors to see.
Since the aircraft had flown in there was still a little fuel in the tanks, which nobody had thought to drain. In those halcyon days the emphasis was on efficiency, not safety. Health & Safety was an almost unheard of cloud on the horizon. We had Health & Efficiency instead and were all the happier, healthier and far more efficient for it. I digress.
With the batteries kept charged and fuel in the tanks, the lad managed to start the engines. Not anticipating it would ever need proper chocks, they had stuck some silly little ones under it and it ran over them.
Construction had started on the museum building. There was no longer sufficient room for take-off.
Fortunately the lad also knew how to shut it down. He managed to get it stopped just in time. The museum put it back, drained the fuel and disconnected the starters.
Has anyone heard of this incident?
Hadn't, but if its true its a cracking story On a visit there I got talking to one of the staff. He said that they had recently had an incident and told me the following story. I have always wondered if it was true, or the guy was winding me up.
This aircraft had been flown into situ, its airframe almost out of hours. You could go in the Beverly and sit at the controls, which were still operational.
A lad who was a member of the ATC had paid a visit. He had read up on the Beverly and was showing off his knowledge of pre-flight checks to his mates. Unfortunately the museum was a bit lax in those early days. They wired a transformer to the batteries and relied upon the aircrafts own internal lighting for visitors to see.
Since the aircraft had flown in there was still a little fuel in the tanks, which nobody had thought to drain. In those halcyon days the emphasis was on efficiency, not safety. Health & Safety was an almost unheard of cloud on the horizon. We had Health & Efficiency instead and were all the happier, healthier and far more efficient for it. I digress.
With the batteries kept charged and fuel in the tanks, the lad managed to start the engines. Not anticipating it would ever need proper chocks, they had stuck some silly little ones under it and it ran over them.
Construction had started on the museum building. There was no longer sufficient room for take-off.
Fortunately the lad also knew how to shut it down. He managed to get it stopped just in time. The museum put it back, drained the fuel and disconnected the starters.
Has anyone heard of this incident?
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