F1 coverage missing the action
F1 coverage missing the action
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GreaseNipple

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488 posts

270 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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For a while now I've been annoyed with the F1 coverage missing out on overtakes by showing us someone pitting etc. It seems to be getting worse with the increased action this season.

They change the rules (successfully it would seem) to give us more action but then you just see the end result and have a surprised commentator saying he must have got passed. We missed out on Alonso passing Schumacher, Massa on Hamilton and a few more besides. You get up early for the increased action and then they don't show you it.

I think everyone gets the same coverage so it's not a BBC thing but couldn't they delay the feed for 30 seconds to a minute so the director could be told what has happened see what shot to go with and then allow us to enjoy the race in full.

Dangerous2

11,327 posts

221 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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i tend to agree, they seem to have a standard policy of cutting away from anything to show a) pitstops or b) the leader trundling around the last lap. It's stupid, they should always prioritise on track action.

deveng

3,920 posts

209 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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What do you suggest they do? If there are lots of battles for position going on all the time then it's impossible to show all of them.

And in this day and age, good pit stops are crucial, so it's often good to show them.

JonnyFive

29,897 posts

218 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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You do realise the BBC don't shoot their own footage of the race.. Its usually supplied by whoever is holding the race, or something along those lines.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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GreaseNipple said:
couldn't they delay the feed for 30 seconds to a minute
Absolutely not. No way.

At least 3 reasons:

i) The whole point of watching it live is that it's LIVE.
ii) For those of us on Betfair during the race a 30sec delay would be catestrophic.
iii) For those of us watching the live timing, a 30sec delay would be a nonsense.

davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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It's all controlled by Bernie (well, CVC), according to the new biography.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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They should have an option to run 4 different shots simultaneously. As a lot of people now have TVs of 37+ inches, each screen would still be plenty big enough and you could watch all four at once almost. It would add a new dimension to watching the races.

Jasandjules

72,576 posts

258 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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MSTRBKR said:
They should have an option to run 4 different shots simultaneously. As a lot of people now have TVs of 37+ inches, each screen would still be plenty big enough and you could watch all four at once almost. It would add a new dimension to watching the races.
With the added bonus of each quarter being a colour so you could push the button to get that as full screen, and then another press of the button gets it back to four screens.


GreaseNipple

Original Poster:

488 posts

270 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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deveng said:
What do you suggest they do? If there are lots of battles for position going on all the time then it's impossible to show all of them.
GreaseNipple said:
couldn't they delay the feed for 30 seconds to a minute so the director could be told what has happened see what shot to go with and then allow us to enjoy the race in full.
JonnyFive said:
You do realise the BBC don't shoot their own footage of the race.. Its usually supplied by whoever is holding the race, or something along those lines.
GreaseNipple said:
I think everyone gets the same coverage so it's not a BBC thing
mrmr96 said:
Absolutely not. No way.

At least 3 reasons:

i) The whole point of watching it live is that it's LIVE.
ii) For those of us on Betfair during the race a 30sec delay would be catestrophic.
iii) For those of us watching the live timing, a 30sec delay would be a nonsense.
i) You watch it LIVE to see replays of the action you've missed?

ii) The priority should be the majority of the viewers not gamblers.

iii) delay the live timing as appropriate.

Streps

2,457 posts

195 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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I disagree about a delay of the feed even for 30 seconds
takes the point out of it being a live event.

What would be better is a release of a DVD of some sort with complete full length edited races
(not those crappy highlights)

featuring experimental shots and different footage.
with all the key overtaking moves of the race missed on the day.


Never would happen though.
We have only just been given HD....



Edited by Streps on Sunday 17th April 17:45

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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well i thought it wasn't too bad - there was a lot of action going on and most of the things they didn't catch live, they had replays of

i certainly remember it being a fair bit worse

Shaw Tarse

31,887 posts

232 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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skinny said:
well i thought it wasn't too bad - there was a lot of action going on and most of the things they didn't catch live, they had replays of

i certainly remember it being a fair bit worse
Cut to ad break!!!

NHK244V

3,358 posts

201 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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do people actually sit there searching desperatly for something to moan about ? judging by this thread they must ?
jesus fking christ rolleyes

MonkeyHanger

9,267 posts

271 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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skinny said:
well i thought it wasn't too bad - there was a lot of action going on and most of the things they didn't catch live, they had replays of

i certainly remember it being a fair bit worse
20 minute highlight package on Grandstand a week after the race...

The coverage is generally very good. Leave it as it is and shoot anyone who even thinks of delaying a live event.

GreaseNipple

Original Poster:

488 posts

270 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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NHK244V said:
do people actually sit there searching desperatly for something to moan about ? judging by this thread they must ?
jesus fking christ rolleyes
Maybe I should have just found a thread to unleash some profanities and eye rolls in nerd

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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If you were watching GP racing in the 80s and 90s, you would be knocked out by the current coverage. Prior to the 80s, it was hardly covered at all.

Count your blessings.

No matter how good the coverage gets, no matter how many cameras are covering the event - people will still find fault.

GreaseNipple

Original Poster:

488 posts

270 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
If you were watching GP racing in the 80s and 90s, you would be knocked out by the current coverage. Prior to the 80s, it was hardly covered at all.

Count your blessings.

No matter how good the coverage gets, no matter how many cameras are covering the event - people will still find fault.
People find faults to make things better. Giving up and accepting the mediocre goes against the human condition.

People moaned about a lack of overtaking, now we have rule changes to increase it yet we are missing the action because of poor direction, what's the point?


The Moose

23,673 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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GreaseNipple said:
People find faults to make things better. Giving up and accepting the mediocre goes against the human condition.

People moaned about a lack of overtaking, now we have rule changes to increase it yet we are missing the action because of poor direction, what's the point?
So, what do you do when there are multiple overtakes going on at exactly the same time on track??

Today's coverage was good IMHO

Cheers

The Moose

The Moose

23,673 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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GreaseNipple said:
People find faults to make things better. Giving up and accepting the mediocre goes against the human condition.

People moaned about a lack of overtaking, now we have rule changes to increase it yet we are missing the action because of poor direction, what's the point?
So, what do you do when there are multiple overtakes going on at exactly the same time on track??

Today's coverage was good IMHO

Cheers

The Moose

Mighty Flex

925 posts

200 months

Sunday 17th April 2011
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slightly o/t but I find it amusing neither DC nor MB noticed Rosberg was in the lead/ about to take it when others pitted for about 5 laps.


On the topic, it's difficult to prioritise, but I would definitely like to see fewer pitstops, especially when they are largely unimportant to the order at the time. there is a great variation of quality in the 'world feed' depending on the local TV company that is doing it.