Registering as 'self employed'?

[Little Butch]

I start a job next Monday where I'll be classed as 'self employed' therefore I have to pay my own tax/NI.
How do I go about registering myself as self employed?
Do I need to keep receipts etc?

Confusing the f*ck outta me!

Thanks, Leon.

[fergywales]

Can you give a few more details? Job and self employed are not good friends when in the same sentence (have a search on here).

What industry, what will you be doing and is it your only 'job'?

[missdiane]

Try here
You can do it online, then they will send you a tax return pack out, not sure when as april 6th has passed already

http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kb5/hmrc/forms/view.pag...

[Little Butch]

It'll be my only job, roughly 9 hours a day Monday - Friday with some weekend work now and then on minimum wage. Working on a free range chicken farm building a huge pen, general bits and bobs..

[fergywales]

Then that isn't self employed. You just happen to have been offered some work by someone who doesn't want to have you as PAYE.

[driver67]

Why not just find a better 'Job' or just take cash in hand ?

[Little Butch]

Because 'better jobs' are hard to come by at 19 and I'm not going to turn down work when I'm skint..

[fergywales]

driver67 said:

Why not just find a better 'Job' or just take cash in hand ?

Quoted for posterity

[driver67]

fergywales said:

Quoted for posterity

Quoted for double posterity ?

Your problem ?

[missdiane]

Legality,..

[fergywales]

Little Butch said:

Because 'better jobs' are hard to come by at 19 and I'm not going to turn down work when I'm skint..

Good on you for taking work that is out there. However, you will be classed as an employee the way you described the job.

[driver67]

missdiane said:

Legality,..

Of what ?

[fergywales]

driver67 said:

fergywales said:

Quoted for posterity

Quoted for double posterity ?

Your problem ?

Seriously?

I'll take a back seat whilst your obvious disregard for taxation earns you the ripping of a new one!

[driver67]

fergywales said:

Seriously?

I'll take a back seat whilst your obvious disregard for taxation earns you the ripping of a new one!

LOL, i'm a paye sucker myself, always have been. But on minimum wage payout from this dubious employer, I sure wouldn't be hiring an accountant to do my tax return

[fergywales]

driver67 said:

fergywales said:

Seriously?

I'll take a back seat whilst your obvious disregard for taxation earns you the ripping of a new one!

LOL, i'm a paye sucker myself, always have been. But on minimum wage payout from this dubious employer, I sure wouldn't be hiring an accountant to do my tax return

So your advice to work 'on the black' to the OP is because he'll be earning a low income, that it is OK?

[driver67]

fergywales said:

So your advice to work 'on the black' to the OP is because he'll be earning a low income, that it is OK?

All the big corporations 'bend the rules' so to speak, why shouldn't us proles.

The guy obviously would rather have a full time employer and does not appear to be a work shy shirker ?

By accepting a minimum wage from this 'employer' the employer does not pay any employer NI for all his 'employees'.

I'm sure you'll agree, he is the scoundrel in this epic thread.

[fergywales]

driver67 said:

fergywales said:

So your advice to work 'on the black' to the OP is because he'll be earning a low income, that it is OK?

All the big corporations 'bend the rules' so to speak, why shouldn't us proles.

The guy obviously would rather have a full time employer and is does not appear to be a work shy shirker ?

By accepting a minimum wage from this 'employer' the employer does not pay any employer NI for all his 'employees'.

I'm sure you'll agree, he is the scoundrel in this epic thread.

No, all I can see is you have some twisted logic for supporting tax evasion (by the employer and the employee).

[driver67]

fergywales said:

No, all I can see is you have some twisted logic for supporting tax evasion (by the employer and the employee).

I think your a tt. If i fix a friends laptop and they give me a nominal sum, I should declare this to the taxman ?

Edited by driver67 on Sunday 17th April 19:25

[fergywales]

driver67 said:

fergywales said:

No, all I can see is you have some twisted logic for supporting tax evasion (by the employer and the employee).

I think your a tt.

I can live with that.

[fergywales]

driver67 said:

If i fix a friends laptop and they give me a nominal sum, I should declare this to the taxman ?

45 hours a week at minimum wage is just shy of £13.9k, hardly a 'nominal sum', is it?