Which Weedkiller?

[neenaw]

Our neighbours in the upstairs flat have a garden which is behind ours. Unfortunately they never use the garden and it's just left to go to ruin and is full of knee high grass and weeds. The problem is that the weeds are starting to come through under our fence and look a mess.

Is there any weedkiller that I can put down along the fence line which will kill the weeds and grass on their side of the fence and stop them growing through? I was going to have a go at it first with a strimmer to cut the worst of it away then go from there.

I've tried contacting the upstairs landlord about it but he's not interested in sorting it out.

[itsnotarace]

Most tenancy agreements have a clause that you need to maintain any garden, so you investigate that but if the landlord isn't willing to help then you're fairly stuffed. I guess you could ask if you can have the bit of garden if they don't want it

I wouldn't strim it as that will scatter seeds and whatnot into your garden. Would just spray liberally with a glycophosphate based weedkiller - you can get pre-mixed from most garden centres etc

[neenaw]

There can't be anything about the gardening in the tenancy agreement it was the same with the previous tenant.

Come to think of it, the previous tenant was even worse, he let the grass and weeds get to about waist height and had an old piece of carpet about 3m x 3m which was in the middle of the garden for his dog to sh*t on. He never cleared up the dogsh*t so it absolutely stunk by the middle of the summer. We called the council about it but they told us they couldn't do anything about it.

Is there any brand of glycophosphate weedkiller in particular that I should try?

[Cogcog]

Roundup if you don't want to sterlise the soil and one of the sodium chlorate replacements if you do.

[.:ian:.]

Get a glyphosphate concentrate, not the pre-mixed-in-a-spray-mostly-massively-overpriced-water stuff you get in the average diy shed.

[Simpo Two]

It's called 'glyphosate'. There's a similar product called glufosinate-ammonium.

But it won't stop the weeds growing back because it's designed just to clear vegetation before planting with something else. To maintain a 'herbicide strip' (ie bare strip) you'd need a path/drive product.

Technically you're only allowed to use products that have approved for public use (ie sold in garden centres), but if you want concentrated stuff from a farmer that's up to you.

Edited by Simpo Two on Thursday 21st April 19:19

[tractorguy]

Gardening weedkiller wise, Roundup 3000 is the best I've used so far but it is on the expensive side. I've just put some weedol 2 down. If its any good I'll let you know.

[otolith]

I've recently treated the gravel driveway, the strip of gravel at the side of the house and the weeds growing between the patio flagstones. I used one of the modern chlorate substitutes, a mixture of glyphosate and two persistent herbicides. That was last Sunday, no sign of plant death yet. It can take a couple of weeks for glyphosate to kill a plant, but I'm wondering how long it takes to be translocated to the roots - do I need to wait for them to die before I cut the foliage off?

[RedLeicester]

tractorguy said:

Gardening weedkiller wise, Roundup 3000 is the best I've used so far but it is on the expensive side. I've just put some weedol 2 down. If its any good I'll let you know.

Buy it in bulk - 400ml or whatever you get from the DIY sheds is about £30, or 5l concentrate is £60....

ETA - here we go - http://www.pitchcare.com/shop/professional-total-w...

Edited by RedLeicester on Friday 22 April 10:59

[Henry-F]

To kill the weeds but not the grass we use a product called grazon 90. Its around £40 a litre for concentrate and last will last you a very long time indeed in a domestic garden.

It acts much quicker than a product like roundup and you may need to do a couple of treatments if the weeds are really well established. That way you don't end up with bare dead patches.

The grass you can simply keep strimmed.

Henry

[PigFilth]

Where to you buy your Grazon at that price?

Grazon is an agricultural herbicide - not appropriate for home and garden use if we are being responsible about it.

[Simpo Two]

PigFilth said:

Grazon is an agricultural herbicide - not appropriate for home and garden use if we are being responsible about it.

I clocked that as well - same goes for the Roundup 3000 suggestion. Not legal to use by amateurs who haven't been oon spraying courses etc, and suppliers should not be selling them to the public.

Then again as a non-electrician I will happily tackle small jobs that legally I am not allowed to do, and think it silly when someone wth a PhD in electrics tells me I'm being stupid because, of course, don't I know that 12V can kill me...

So I guess we all tend to spout the rules in our own industries, and ignore those of other peoples'

[sherman]

Wait until next week if the good weather keeps up and then use a weed wand on the weeds and kill them with fire

[PigFilth]

Simpo Two said:

I clocked that as well - same goes for the Roundup 3000 suggestion. Not legal to use by amateurs who haven't been oon spraying courses etc, and suppliers should not be selling them to the public.

Then again as a non-electrician I will happily tackle small jobs that legally I am not allowed to do, and think it silly when someone wth a PhD in electrics tells me I'm being stupid because, of course, don't I know that 12V can kill me...

So I guess we all tend to spout the rules in our own industries, and ignore those of other peoples'

The ag industry is losing enough active ingredients as it is, and seeing a lot more restriction on the use of others - and that's without ag products being lashed on in non-ag situations (not suggesting this what Henry is doing, but the more who are encouraged to use them, the more chance of abuse).

[davidd]

Simpo Two said:

I clocked that as well - same goes for the Roundup 3000 suggestion. Not legal to use by amateurs who haven't been oon spraying courses etc, and suppliers should not be selling them to the public.

Then again as a non-electrician I will happily tackle small jobs that legally I am not allowed to do, and think it silly when someone wth a PhD in electrics tells me I'm being stupid because, of course, don't I know that 12V can kill me...

So I guess we all tend to spout the rules in our own industries, and ignore those of other peoples'

I bought roundup 3000 from amazon last week.... Still waiting for it to kill the weeds though

[Henry-F]

PigFilth said:

Where to you buy your Grazon at that price?

Grazon is an agricultural herbicide - not appropriate for home and garden use if we are being responsible about it.

The price was a quick look on the web, I can't recall how much we paid last time we bought it.

We have a farm, but with the advent of the internet policing for any user becomes rather difficult!

Is there an equivalent domestic selective product available?

Henry

[Simpo Two]

davidd said:

I bought roundup 3000 from amazon last week.... Still waiting for it to kill the weeds though

Yep - glyphosate takes 10-14 days to work, and the weeds have to be actively growing. It's very effective, but not fast.

Looks like I made a mistake about Roundup 3000, it does appear to be a domestic version, sorry. But putting twice as much on won't make it work any faster

[PigFilth]

Henry-F said:

The price was a quick look on the web, I can't recall how much we paid last time we bought it.

We have a farm, but with the advent of the internet policing for any user becomes rather difficult!

Is there an equivalent domestic selective product available?

Henry

Not that I can think of. Those actives don't tend to be used in garden herbicides AFAIK. Usually hormones, glyphosate etc. - at a fraction of the agricultural dose and several times the price.

[WestieMan]

davidd said:

I bought roundup 3000 from amazon last week.... Still waiting for it to kill the weeds though

I am glad I am not the only one.
I spayed the weeds on our new land/garden 3 days ago with r/3000, and now they look healthier than ever .

Edited by WestieMan on Monday 25th April 19:03

[PigFilth]

Very hot dry conditions won't help - if the plants are under drought stress they'll not be taking in product as much as spraying in cool conditions with some moisture about.