Idling at 1400 rpm
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Simon says said:
Hi Ben
are you using Megatune or Tunerstudio? as this started out of the blue or as this been a problem before? sounds like an idle steps value problem in your controller possibly 
Hi mate, Its been doing it for a while tbh, ive never altered the idle steps on the squirt but it sounds like a good place to start. It also ties into how it starts at 1000rpm then moves upto 1400rpm (when warm)ill have a read up
are you using Megatune or Tunerstudio? as this started out of the blue or as this been a problem before? sounds like an idle steps value problem in your controller possibly 

Thanks
im using the tunerstudio btw
To be honest I can see why some people move away from the RV8 stepper and fit a conventional rotary idle valve (far more stable) as its far from the best way to control idle speed on the RV8,mine was a devil to get to behave as I wanted it to especially from cold(I like a fast idle)I also have the stepper settings control set on "always on" rather than "moving only" as I find this far more consistent,in fact this caused the only problem as far as my MS2 install is concerned
and no fault of the ECU
have a look at your IAC step bins within startup/idle menu idle steps and tighten them up a little at your running temp 
and no fault of the ECU
have a look at your IAC step bins within startup/idle menu idle steps and tighten them up a little at your running temp 
Edited by Simon says on Friday 22 April 20:38
Hmmm this has got me a bit puzzled, ive tried altering the megasquirt settings as mentioned by Simon but it dosent alter my idle?
I tried to clamp the connecting pipe to the stepper to reset the idle.. again made no difference?
With the idle screws fully wound in it gives me 1400rpm? clamp the pipe no change
The steppers working as much as i can tell, its got power and goes in and out when cycling the ignition.
one strange thing i should mention is i turn the car on when warm and it sits at a steady 1000rpm twenty seconds later it will jump to 1400-1600rpm with a steady idle
What next? except the petrol and matches route...im not there quite yet.
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I tried to clamp the connecting pipe to the stepper to reset the idle.. again made no difference?
With the idle screws fully wound in it gives me 1400rpm? clamp the pipe no change

The steppers working as much as i can tell, its got power and goes in and out when cycling the ignition.
one strange thing i should mention is i turn the car on when warm and it sits at a steady 1000rpm twenty seconds later it will jump to 1400-1600rpm with a steady idle

What next? except the petrol and matches route...im not there quite yet.
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Edited by Meatball on Saturday 23 April 18:21
Those bins should not be giving you the problems you are experiencing Ben I suspect the trouble is elsewhere are you using the twin butterfly plenum by chance? as I seem to remember them having trouble with the shafts twisting or similar causing the butterflies not to close down correctly or similar(not sure & may be wrong)if you have un-metered air entering the plenum you need to correct this otherwise your likely to have all kinds of low speed issues and your TPS will be getting lied to,you need to confirm that both discs/butterflies are closing down when the throttle is shut and then just have a nats air gap (5 thou approx) so they don't close to far and jam in there housing
they may just need realigning in there bore as binding in the housing is not ideal
what Daz mentioned is also possible too on MS but as I was under the impression you had your install on the car sometime now and this could not have always been the case surely 
they may just need realigning in there bore as binding in the housing is not ideal
what Daz mentioned is also possible too on MS but as I was under the impression you had your install on the car sometime now and this could not have always been the case surely 
Edited by Simon says on Sunday 24th April 08:50
Hi Simon, im using a single throttle at the moment and the plenum is set up as you mentioned. Im wondering if the bins are the wrong way round? as its getting warmer shouldnt the stepper be used less? or have i got it the wrong way round 
ill have another go on the laptop once i can get it to hold charge long enough
the point daz made cant be right as its plug and play so the wirings never changed from day 1.

ill have another go on the laptop once i can get it to hold charge long enough

the point daz made cant be right as its plug and play so the wirings never changed from day 1.
Im a little puzzled, i think i can rule out the stepper bins (thanks Simon :thumup:, i cant find an air leak 
Ive got no manual adjustment on the idle, clamping the hose makes no difference as does disconecting the stepper.
I followed the instructions by the bible
I guess its time to strip it down and get the silicone out again.

Ive got no manual adjustment on the idle, clamping the hose makes no difference as does disconecting the stepper.
I followed the instructions by the bible

I guess its time to strip it down and get the silicone out again.
You've also wired the stepper the wrong way round as Silicon Kid says. The steps should decrease as your temperature increases. I've replied to this question on the V8 forum, but incase you miss it I have a couple of videos and help files on my site:
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/Drawings/PDF_Files/RV8_S...
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/idlevalve.htm
http://www.youtube.com/extraefi
cheers
Phil
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/Drawings/PDF_Files/RV8_S...
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/idlevalve.htm
http://www.youtube.com/extraefi
cheers
Phil
daxtojeiro said:
You've also wired the stepper the wrong way round as Silicon Kid says. The steps should decrease as your temperature increases. I've replied to this question on the V8 forum, but incase you miss it I have a couple of videos and help files on my site:
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/Drawings/PDF_Files/RV8_S...
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/idlevalve.htm
http://www.youtube.com/extraefi
cheers
Phil
Hi Phil, http://www.extraefi.co.uk/Drawings/PDF_Files/RV8_S...
http://www.extraefi.co.uk/idlevalve.htm
http://www.youtube.com/extraefi
cheers
Phil
Thats a bit odd as im running the megasquirt via your plug and play, as you know the stepper wiring is using the original lucas loom? and the map i posted was the map which came on the disc
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