Scam or not ?? Would you buy a car with out a viewing ?
Scam or not ?? Would you buy a car with out a viewing ?
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JRM Rossi

Original Poster:

703 posts

218 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Hi i have got a car for sale on ph & a chap has contacted me with the view to buy the car, however hes too busy to view the car & wants to pay by paypay or bank transfer its ringing my alarm bells
Its early days yet so im trying to find out more info on the person & im waiting for his reply to my last email as i mentioned the scam word

If this is a genuine buyer im sorry for this post

ajcj

798 posts

234 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Happened to me, chap bought my Cerbera without viewing, paid me from abroad, all kosher. If he's willing to pay the money into your bank account, don't worry about it.

varsas

4,075 posts

231 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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I wouldn't, no.

I had the same thing when selling my Land Rover. Guy did a BACS transfer into my bank, I checked my balance on line, then called the bank and double checked the payment could not be reveresed (it can, but only on the same working day, and your bank has to be part of the fast pay scheme to make the actual payment happen within 24 hours). All went well, he came and picked the car up and I never heard from him again (and I still have the money!).

You should not need to give anything other then bank account number, sort code and name for the bank transfer. If he starts asking anything else (e.g. D.O.B.) be suspecious, remember he'll soon have your address too so you need to be a bit carefull.

m3jappa

6,948 posts

247 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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I'm picking up a tuscan i haven't viewed this thursday, deposit paid.

That said i have had several images, i have spoken extensivly to the current owner and also the places which looks after it which has known the car from new. Every question i wanted to know has been answered- good and bad.

I have also bought an m3 like this, a couple of work vans etc etc.

I'm happy doing things like this, i don't want to waste peoples time and i don't want to waste my own. You just have to be careful and have a bit of knowledge.

When i sold my evo it went to a guy in malta, every thing he said sounded like a scam. I said if your 'man' takes me into a bank and i can watch him withdraw the cash you can have it. He did this and the deal was done so you just have to be aware of what can go on, theres no way i would have accpeted anything but cash though!

Engineer1

10,486 posts

238 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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If the car is rare enough or special enough then it stands a greater chance of being legit, I wouldn't buy a Ford Fiesta sight unseen but a TVR, or similar I would be more inclined too, especially if I knew a place that could get it perfect at a reasonable price.

suffolk009

7,881 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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I have in the past purchased four cars off ebay, sight unseen. Chatted to the chaps selling them, transfered money bank to bank and had the cars collected. Two were hopeless, two were as described.

But I wouldn't worry about selling it unseen, if the moneys cleared - it's yours.

JRM Rossi

Original Poster:

703 posts

218 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Just an update i sent a email to the chap to ask about collection ect were the car would be going & info on him ect ...... No reply normally he gets back straight away,i guess im asking to many questions

JRM Rossi

Original Poster:

703 posts

218 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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Just had a email from pistonheads "SCAM" Big thanks to the ph team

bazking69

8,620 posts

219 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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If in any doubt, ever, don't.

Jem0911

4,415 posts

230 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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I sold my Range Rover unseen to a buyer who transfered the asking price into my account the same day.
Picked it up two days later.

Did turn in to abit of a mupmup but sorted now.
Expected a warranty with a private sale.

grimfandango

372 posts

214 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I've bought a quite a few cars unseen, sometimes I've gone to pick them up, but mostly I find it easier to pay somebody else to put it on a lorry and bring it to me. when you add up the price of petrol the time it takes, dinner out ect it isnt all that much more.

You have to be carefull though and know what your buying. smile

poo at Paul's

14,611 posts

204 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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It is a shame that crap like this happens, from the other side I am genuine but currently trying to buy a car remotely, I will be collecting in person but happen to be abroad 6k miles away, and wanted to buy it having been let down on others. Seller seems a thoroughly nice chap, but hasn't accepted any of my offers despite them being IMO very fair, one made by phone, one increased one by PM, (due time diff) and very close to his asking price. I get the impression if I was able to make them in person, they would have been accepted. I can understand the trepidation, due to all these scammy wkers, but it is a proper pisser for genuine buyers who are away or just a long way away.

In this internet age, if you advertise on the net and look to buy on the net, it is something that you have to put up with, but it is crap for all the genuine parties (buyers and sellers) out there.

Kiltox

14,864 posts

187 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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shoutNEVER accept payment for a car by PayPal

Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

212 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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I sold a Mini Clubman ice cream van on eBay and got a message in Japanese. The chap was a collector of small cars because of how the laws are in Japan if you can not prove you have somewhere to park you can only drive a small or micro car. Anyway money was transfered into my account minutes after the auction ended and two days later a chap turned up put the car in a crate and took straight to the nearest port. The car sold for twice what I was expecting as well. wink