composite door hard to open, hot weather, easy to adjust.
composite door hard to open, hot weather, easy to adjust.
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stolt

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420 posts

210 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Had a new front door fitted a couple of weeks back, composite, all fine and good over the last week with the hot weather it seems to have made it very hard to open, seems he latch is catching, the mutilpoint seems to lock pretty easily.

Ive took a pic of the hinges thinking they can be adjusted. would normally call the company back but problem is kids back at school tuesday and my missus cant open the door to get in, she has 4 school runs a day aswell.

being composite is, it any different to do than a upvc


in the hing there is small allen key, but not sure if that just moves it lateral.





Simpo Two

91,486 posts

289 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Logic dictates you adjust every adjustment each way and see if you can make it work. Worst case is they made the door too big and will have to re-do.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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The latch plate is often adjustable - if that's the worst bind, I'd alter that before messing with the hinges.

Dogwatch

6,368 posts

246 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Found this on Google!

I'm sure my late FIL had problems with sticking when he had a composite front door fitted (South facing on sea front) but the OH can't remember any. Doh!

stolt

Original Poster:

420 posts

210 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Logic dictates you adjust every adjustment each way and see if you can make it work. Worst case is they made the door too big and will have to re-do.
yeah but its been fine, only last week/ two weeks, i assumed the heat but maybe just dropped, although i had heard that the composite doors didnt have that problem, and it wasnt a cheap door either.

rather than the door catching the frame its the latch that doesn't fully engage, i have to give it a final push to engage it, same way when its opened, i have to pull the door towards me and turn the key to open it, missus hasn't got the strength to pull and turn!!!

heres a pic of the latch plate, rather than having holes which can side aittle but there doesnt seem much room for movement.





Simpo Two

91,486 posts

289 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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OK, I see the issue now.

Those little circles look like cams. If you slacken off the screws do they turn at all?

stolt

Original Poster:

420 posts

210 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Simpo Two said:
OK, I see the issue now.

Those little circles look like cams. If you slacken off the screws do they turn at all?
whats a cam? ive undone the top screw, heard something drop (sounded like in the frame) now the screw wont go back in!!!!

Simpo Two

91,486 posts

289 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Probably gone past the cam stage then! Time to get the installers back and plead ignorance I think!

stolt

Original Poster:

420 posts

210 months

Sunday 24th April 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Probably gone past the cam stage then! Time to get the installers back and plead ignorance I think!
hmmm, i was just going to not even say ive touched it, and there just think they didn't fit a screw in the plate lol, as long as they don't just do that and think that was the issue.


Roy E6

1,025 posts

256 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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stolt said:
Had a new front door fitted a couple of weeks back
Why are you even thinking about trying to adjust it? Get the fitters back, its part of your guarantee.
if you start playing with it yourself you may invalidate the guarantee.

stolt

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420 posts

210 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Roy E6 said:
Why are you even thinking about trying to adjust it? Get the fitters back, its part of your guarantee.
if you start playing with it yourself you may invalidate the guarantee.
hi, well if it was a simple adjustment then i could do it, its basically stuck closed, missus needs to use it throughout this week, and with it being bank holiday the earliest i reckon someone can get round here is thursday, plus i know its a longshot but in the event of a fire nobody could get out the front door.

ive left it now as you say its under guarantee so ill give them a call first thing tomorrow.



Simpo Two

91,486 posts

289 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Roy E6 said:
Why are you even thinking about trying to adjust it? Get the fitters back, its part of your guarantee.
if you start playing with it yourself you may invalidate the guarantee.
Sometimes it's easier to spend 5 seconds with a screwdriver than waiting a week and taking half a day off work to watch someone else spending 5 secionds with a screwdriver.

Though perhaps not in this case!

stolt

Original Poster:

420 posts

210 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Sometimes it's easier to spend 5 seconds with a screwdriver than waiting a week and taking half a day off work to watch someone else spending 5 secionds with a screwdriver.

Though perhaps not in this case!
lol, yeah quite, thought it was going to be a simple case of moving the latch plate a couple of mm etc....

Pcot

863 posts

206 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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You don't need to touch the screws at all.
You need to put an allen key in the holes shown, and twist. They are on a cam, and as you turn, the plate will move inward, or outward as required.
Its a piece of piss. Go do it now, and report back. biggrin

R60EST

2,364 posts

206 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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If you want a temporary quick fix without getting hands on try hosing it down with cold water , it will contract slightly and should work as it did . As soon as the sun is on it for any length of time it will probably play up again though.

stolt

Original Poster:

420 posts

210 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Pcot said:
You don't need to touch the screws at all.
You need to put an allen key in the holes shown, and twist. They are on a cam, and as you turn, the plate will move inward, or outward as required.
Its a piece of piss. Go do it now, and report back. biggrin
dont dare touch it now! lol will see what they say tomorrow and how long it takes them to come out to fix it, there not local, about hour and half away so its not like they can send someone whos just passing.

Pcot

863 posts

206 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Its only a case of turning it with an allen key. Nothing will become lose, nothing will fall off, i promise.

stolt

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420 posts

210 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Pcot said:
Its only a case of turning it with an allen key. Nothing will become lose, nothing will fall off, i promise.
hi just tried a allen key, its more a of star design of screw head that in there, as i cant get the screw back in that fell out yesterday (self tapper into metal but i cant get it back in there) i've resigned myself to the fact that they are going to have to come out, thanks for the suggestions /help though.

Pcot

863 posts

206 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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You're absolutely right, its a torx bit, sorry.
The self tapper you have in your hand, will go back in if you drive it in with a cordless driver.
I would imagine, the reinforcing inside the frame has slipped slightly, preventing the screw going back in its original hole.

stolt

Original Poster:

420 posts

210 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Pcot said:
You're absolutely right, its a torx bit, sorry.
The self tapper you have in your hand, will go back in if you drive it in with a cordless driver.
I would imagine, the reinforcing inside the frame has slipped slightly, preventing the screw going back in its original hole.
no probs i could have took a better picture, but your spot on about the self tapper, i can see a thin bit of metal behind and it crossed my mind that it would go in with the cordless drill set on screwdriver.
i have some of those torx bits somewhere aswell.