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It depends just what they're getting out of the engine. Original quotes have ranged from 500bhp to 550bhp but there have been hints that it may be more. If it's only 500bhp 0-200mph is going to take a while, whereas if it's 600bhp we should be looking at below 30s.
I think the McLaren F1 was 22s with 627bhp and 1150kg from memory, so 600bhp and 1100kg (is this a confirmed weight for the Typhon?) should be comparable depending on aerodynamics.
I think the McLaren F1 was 22s with 627bhp and 1150kg from memory, so 600bhp and 1100kg (is this a confirmed weight for the Typhon?) should be comparable depending on aerodynamics.
Quality. roadsweeper said:
It depends just what they're getting out of the engine. Original quotes have ranged from 500bhp to 550bhp but there have been hints that it may be more. If it's only 500bhp 0-200mph is going to take a while, whereas if it's 600bhp we should be looking at below 30s.
I think the McLaren F1 was 22s with 627bhp and 1150kg from memory, so 600bhp and 1100kg (is this a confirmed weight for the Typhon?) should be comparable depending on aerodynamics.
It's gonna be interesting to find out ... the big issue in 0 - anything will be traction IF it can get the torque down cleanly(and remember its putting out over 500 lb/ft through 255 section rear tyres and is front mid engined) the Typhon could turn out to be quite a giant killer ..
m12_nathan said:
My car has significantly less torque at only 350lb/ft weighs the same is mid engined so better for traction and comes with 265 rear tyres - I'd say getting the power down at anything under 60mph is going to be hard work for you.
Still - good laugh trying
won't know till I drive it though it does come with a t/c system and an option of very sticky tyres .. we'll see ..
TVR TYPHON said:
ooooooooooops, sorry i dont mean 200 mph i mean 200km/h
Well that must be something like 12 / 14 s?
Edit to say: close guess 10.5s
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>> Edited by dinkel on Sunday 26th December 19:16
I don't think the position of the engine is going to help matters. The McLaren F1 was a mid mounted engine/ near the rear, driven wheels. Under acceleration there will be a weight transfer to the rear of the car. In the F1 most of the weight was already there. That meant that it had more tractive force, using the tyres to there max potential.
I don't want to spoil your fun but TVR are going to need to find some 1.4 tyres and a way of transfering wieght if they're going to beat the F1. It may be worth sticking 50kg of tungston on the butt of the Typoon.
I love TVRs but I'm not convinced yet!
CONVINCE ME PLEASE!
I don't want to spoil your fun but TVR are going to need to find some 1.4 tyres and a way of transfering wieght if they're going to beat the F1. It may be worth sticking 50kg of tungston on the butt of the Typoon.
I love TVRs but I'm not convinced yet! CONVINCE ME PLEASE!
Gazboy said:
Macca took 28 seconds, Top Secret Supra (1000rw-bhp) 23 seconds.
You are quite correct, it is 28s. However, I had to laugh at you also feeling the need to quote the Top Secret Supra time - could it be that you love Japanese cars or something Gaz?
The Top Secret Supra is a massively modified car - stick twin turbos on a McLaren F1 and we'll see what's fast.
All this talk about traction impacting acceleration is more signficant when you talk about 0-60mph and 0-100mph times. Traction is probably going to be an issue up to, maybe, 60mph, which might make a difference of say 0.5s. After that full throttle should be applicable, and wheelspin should be avoidable. The limit might be higher than 60mph, but even if it's 100mph before full throttle can be applied then you're still only looking at an additional 1s or so compared to a McLaren F1 given that a Cerbera can do 0-100mph in under 9s.
>> Edited by roadsweeper on Thursday 3rd February 16:30
>> Edited by roadsweeper on Thursday 3rd February 16:30
Gazboy said:How much power was that putting out? Wheelspin in a straight line in the dry at 100 mph implies to me that you've got *massive* power or you've got some well dodgy tyres!
the guy before me was scared shitless when the TuscanS was breaking traction deep into third gear (100mph iirc).
GreenV8S said:
the guy before me was scared shitless when the TuscanS was breaking traction deep into third gear (100mph iirc).
How much power was that putting out? Wheelspin in a straight line in the dry at 100 mph implies to me that you've got *massive* power or you've got some well dodgy tyres!
In response to roadsweeper's observations and the quote above I still beleive traction limit would pose a problem for the Typhoon. Tiff Needel managed to wheelspin in the first four gears in the SPEED 12 at goodwood a few years ago (I believe).
I reckon the typhoon would be much the same. In a racing situation a good start can make all the difference. Ask a drag racer!
dinkel said:
What would a Speed 12 do? I believe some chaps out there have their hands on a roadworthy beast . . .
Some figures for 0-60, 0-100 and 0-200 mph have been postulated for my Speed 12. EVO magazine tested the car at Silverstone the other day but no specific performance figures were measured - their article will be published on 6th April.
It is possible, if clumsy, over enthusiastic or straight certifiable to spin the wheels well in to the high 100's (it span it wheels changing relatively gently from 4th to 5th down the Hangar Straight probably ~160mph). However, the one limiting factor re any 0 - ? times is that the Speed 12 has a differential optomised for traction out of a corner and as the GT races always had "Rolling Starts" it means that putting all that torque through the diff with sticky slicks would/could be catastrophic. A bespoke diff for standing starts could be used but kind of misses the point.
So it is out there, will be at events and most importantly WILL be driven.
>> Edited by Cerbera Speed 12 on Sunday 27th March 11:16
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