Clutch Fluid Gone
Clutch Fluid Gone
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Rob_W

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1,070 posts

243 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Had a nice drive this afternoon and twice when I was nearly home the clutch pedal behaved oddly going to the floor, staying and then recovering. Got home selected reverse to get into the garage, clutch gone, could have been worse places I suppose! Anyway fluid dripping from rear undertray and master cylinder empty, haven't had time to look from underneath and won't until tomorrow but I'm hoping it's the pipe. Would slave cylinder leaks show in this way? Any thoughts welcome.
Rob

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Hi Rob , check the joint where the flexible hose connects to the slave cylinder , could leak from there !! Or maybe the hose has chaffed through somewhere ?? Tux

Rob_W

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1,070 posts

243 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Hi Si
Yes I found an old thread where the flexible had failed at the joint to the fixed pipe. Will have a proper look tomorrow.Fingers crossed it's simple!
Rob

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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hope you don't have to get the box off to fix the slave !


Rob_W

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1,070 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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So the bad news is the pipe is dry as a bone so no (relatively) simple fix. Although there is fluid around on the top of the undertray I can't actually see where it's coming from. Although I assume it must be the slave cylinder I'd like to trace where the fluid comes out, any ideas?

Edit: pumped some more fluid through and it left no doubt as to where it's coming out, see photo below.



Although I have a reasonable size garage to work in and am prepared to do a far amount of work I don't feel I have all the kit or am competent to do this work myself so now have to try and get it to somebody who can. Had provisionally got it booked in for a service with Jetstream mid/late May but that seems a long way off now. If anybody could give me a summary of how to go about it i.e. can I get box off with the engine in situ etc, I might give it a go.

Edit; just looked at the car again and the build manual and feel a bit daunted.

My week's holiday was intended to be driving the car not spannering.frown

Edited by Rob_W on Tuesday 26th April 12:18

wessexrfc

4,326 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Have a nasty feeling you are going to be removing the gear box to get to the slave. Have a search, I think you can remove the gearbox by removing one of the struts, rather than having to remove the engine. Hope I'm wrong and best of luck if I'm not.

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Rob,
Looks like slave !
You can cut out a side bar on the N/S of chassis to remove gearbox but i'm advised by someone who has done it & really does know that it's just as much work as removing the complete lump & plus if you take the engine out you haven't weakened the chassis !

Rob_W

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1,070 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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I've solved the problem......


Spoke to Peter @1.30, collected @4.00, pretty good service, I am very impressed.

Gets the clutch, service, silicone pipes, oil leak, turbo actuators all done in one go. Ok it will cost a bit but risk free.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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are you going to get the gearbox/clutch upgraded whilst it is out ?

Rob_W

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1,070 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Hi Mike
Spent some time today researching clutches and as there is no absolutely clear path (AP/Helix which version etc) forward we are just going to have a look at how the existing one looks before deciding what to do. Gearbox is staying as is, short sighted you may say but it's a balance of whether it's really needed for my use against yet more time off the road to say nothing of cost. I may live to regret it but there's only so much you can do.
Rob

TuxMan

9,011 posts

267 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Hi Rob ,bad news mate hope you get it sorted quickly , speak to Dave at Jetstream he might have uprated clutch on the shelf , Tux

Rob_W

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243 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Good thinking Si, have sent messages.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Hope you get it back in working order soon

jdearden

1,746 posts

206 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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TuxMan said:
Hi Rob ,bad news mate hope you get it sorted quickly , speak to Dave at Jetstream he might have uprated clutch on the shelf , Tux
They have a few on the shelf. Had one off them today.

Rob_W

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1,070 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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jdearden said:
They have a few on the shelf. Had one off them today.
They had two on the shelf and you had one and some other b*stard had the other, only joking we are working on a solution!

GTO600

1,877 posts

280 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Rob_W said:
They had two on the shelf and you had one and some other b*stard had the other, only joking we are working on a solution!
That'll be me then !
I do have a new standard plate if you are interested as no need for a Helix uprated unit unless you are running over 420lbs.

Gadgeroonie

5,362 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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is anyone out there running over 600 lb/ft ?

sundance002

1,304 posts

193 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Hi Rob,

My car was doing the exact same thing, turned out to be the pipe that runs from the front resevior to the rear, it was wet in a small section and was very hard to spot, it was only when he removed the panel he saw it, so might be worth having a good look behind the panel at the front.
was driving me mad, Skip has just fixed it along with a few other things,
collecting tomorrow.

Rob_W

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243 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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GTO600 said:
That'll be me then !
I do have a new standard plate if you are interested as no need for a Helix uprated unit unless you are running over 420lbs.
Already running 440lbs so upgrade is overdue if anything, is your spare with Dave by any chance?

Rob_W

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243 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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sundance002 said:
Hi Rob,

My car was doing the exact same thing, turned out to be the pipe that runs from the front resevior to the rear, it was wet in a small section and was very hard to spot, it was only when he removed the panel he saw it, so might be worth having a good look behind the panel at the front.
was driving me mad, Skip has just fixed it along with a few other things,
collecting tomorrow.

Hi Craig

If only it were the pipe although now it's gone the upgrade makes sense and it also makes it easier to fit your hoses, let's see how bright they look when installed!

Rob