Top Oilers (or not)
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Mark13

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411 posts

199 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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It was a really good performance from the Top Fuel contingent at the Thunderball, with virtually no downtime. A friend of mine mentioned that one of the few oil down delays was from a purple pro-mod. Surely not!

(just a joke Graham)

Toyless

25,199 posts

242 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Based on the expected performance levels, I would say several other classes provided far more interest tbh.

Barry B

505 posts

232 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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I'd agree with that, how about 9.51 secs and 133 mph using a snotload of batteries, two fork truck motors and a two speed, nailed into a Vee Dubbya... that's ingenuity, well done Sam Young and team Black Current !

fergywales

1,624 posts

215 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Didn't make the weekend sadly, but enjoyed eurodragster.com coverage (well done to Tog & the gang, you deserve medals and honours for the work you all do to keep the absent informed).

clap to all racers, what a first event of the year! Super Street Bike seemed to put on a hell of a show, Dave Beck scaring the Nordics from a distance and, as mentioned already, a rather quick milk float with a beetle body, WOW! Well done to Darren, Adam & Motor Psycho gang on getting to their first final also.

TF/TM/PM, whilst I am a big fan, should, I think, be encouraged to come along and test (which in essence they are) rather than attempt to put a show on. What if the weather had done it's usual or there were more on track incidents, would the excellent (my PoV, from a distance) sportsman show have suffered delays to allow the pros to run at allotted times?

Final point: Darryl & Colin's commentary, with having the coverage running pretty much all weekend, for the first time I didn't reminisce about the good old days of Beckwith & Pricey. Witty banter, informative and with a passion that I found would engage fans new and old. Well done.

Toyless

25,199 posts

242 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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Glad Im not only SSB fan.

The electric beetle is an amazing feat too.

Thanks to Tog & co for awesome coverage with top commentary from the boys.

Look forward to having the same weather for the Main event and 30 PM !

Tet

1,196 posts

225 months

Monday 25th April 2011
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fergywales said:
What if the weather had done it's usual or there were more on track incidents, would the excellent (my PoV, from a distance) sportsman show have suffered delays to allow the pros to run at allotted times?
Yes. But that's just how it is. Always has been, and always will be. Having been on both sides of the fence for that, it doesn't bother me too much. What I don't understand, though, is the obsession with only running complete cycles of qualifying. The track closed early on Friday, for example, because there wasn't enough time to run another complete cycle. But who cares? Why not run as much as you can before curfew, and continue the cycle the following morning? I can understand why you wouldn't split a class. But splitting the cycle at the end of an appropriate class seems a no brainer to me. We get little enough track time in this country as it is. I'd like the see us make better use of that time that we're currently doing. We have the chance to throw a few more vehicles down the track. I don't see why we don't take it.

Equally bizarre was the decision on Saturday night by the race director. When the last cycle of the day couldn't be completed, the decision was made to start the next cycle again from scratch the following morning, with the promise that they'd try and fit in an extra run at the end of the day for those of us that had missed out at the end of the previous cycle. To no one's great surprise, that never happened, and we missed out on a qualifier that we should have had. Yes, I know that we got a decent number of qualifiers anyway, but we've paid the same as the other classes to enter, so it seems strange that we get to miss out while they get extra runs. There's an argument to say that maybe Pro ET and Super Pro ET will put rubber down to prep the track for the other classes, so it makes sense to run them first. But personally I'd rather just run on a slightly green track...

But that aside, ultimately, I had a great weekend, even if the racing didn't go entirely as planned. After taking a year out last year, it was great to be back out on track, and nice to see decent weather for the whole meeting (even if it was too hot to be entirely pleasant for me or for the car).

fergywales

1,624 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Agree, did come across as a bizarre decision top chop and change running orders. Can only assume there was a reason not immediately apparent that lead to it.

I can understand to an extent when the race track and support staff hours are taken into consideration. What also struck me as bizarre was that none of the 5 TF teams (or indeed any of the FIA or FIM/UEM racers) took the opportunity to tab a teat run on the end of the finals day. Would have been good track time and a good close to the event (not that Andy Robinson's 6.10 wasn't a fitting end to proceedings for the weekend).

wicked fish

526 posts

184 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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fergywales said:
What also struck me as bizarre was that none of the 5 TF teams (or indeed any of the FIA or FIM/UEM racers) took the opportunity to tab a teat run on the end of the finals day. Would have been good track time and a good close to the event (not that Andy Robinson's 6.10 wasn't a fitting end to proceedings for the weekend).
its not up to the teams if they test or not its up to the race director, Andy R was only alowed that shot as he is leaving SP and going straight to Kunmadaras and had to test his engine after the trouble hed had this weekend,
fuel cars in europe dont test generaly it costs too much they wont run for free anywhere,... what do you think this weekend is for the big cars.....a test session for the fia rounds with pay...

Burndown

732 posts

187 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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fergywales said:
Final point: Darryl & Colin's commentary, with having the coverage running pretty much all weekend, for the first time I didn't reminisce about the good old days of Beckwith & Pricey. Witty banter, informative and with a passion that I found would engage fans new and old. Well done.
I have to agree, Darryl commetating from the startline and getting "first impression" feedback from teams was a good idea.

fergywales

1,624 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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wicked fish said:
fergywales said:
What also struck me as bizarre was that none of the 5 TF teams (or indeed any of the FIA or FIM/UEM racers) took the opportunity to tab a teat run on the end of the finals day. Would have been good track time and a good close to the event (not that Andy Robinson's 6.10 wasn't a fitting end to proceedings for the weekend).
its not up to the teams if they test or not its up to the race director, Andy R was only alowed that shot as he is leaving SP and going straight to Kunmadaras and had to test his engine after the trouble hed had this weekend,
fuel cars in europe dont test generaly it costs too much they wont run for free anywhere,... what do you think this weekend is for the big cars.....a test session for the fia rounds with pay...
Understandable, although surprising the race director didn't offer any others the chance.

Great to see progress happening with the Cuda, and well done on having the kahunas to put together the turbo setup in the Superbird. Our own Roger Burgess in the making wink

NitroWars

667 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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In my opinion I thought it was a shame that the RFM cars only appeared to "make the numbers up" so as to take payment by guaranteeing a crowd without putting in representative passes... It was no surprise to see the top two places taken by independents (and by a large margin too)...

MotorPsycho

1,126 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Once again Darryl and Colin were fantastic on the commentry.

My massive congratulations has to go to Lawrie, Gary and the Chaos team. Storming performance all weekend and knocking very heavily on the door of Clive Mechaell's record smile and getting to race one of your heros in a fuel altered final, awesome biggrin

Also to Wendy Baker and Paul Stubbings, good to see the lone NFC out there flying.

NitroChrisUK

228 posts

203 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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i was not able to get to the pod this weekend but the coverage on Eurodragster and the webcam was the best it has been.. as already been said Colin & Darryl did a great job.

the performances from all classes were fantastic too it was a joy to watch everything all weekend and i cannot wait for the Main Event.

big well done to Gary page and the team !!

and also to Dave beck what a great run that was.

as for the fuel cars .. was not really expecting many of them to put in full runs.. but some half track numbers make the Main event looks very interesting...


the best thing was that the weather was good all weekend and everyone in every class got to put some runs down.


Bring On May

Burndown

732 posts

187 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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NitroWars said:
In my opinion I thought it was a shame that the RFM cars only appeared to "make the numbers up" so as to take payment by guaranteeing a crowd without putting in representative passes... It was no surprise to see the top two places taken by independents (and by a large margin too)...
The top two places were taken by the combinations that have the most runs under their belts with their respective set ups. I was not at all surprised to see the new RFM combinations not being at the front. These cars are not easy to tune and the top end is where you do the damage.

NitroWars

667 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Burndown said:
These cars are not easy to tune and the top end is where you do the damage.
Really? You're kidding me aren't you! rolleyes

ETA - Just to let you know that 2011 is my 36th season involved in Drag Racing...


Edited by NitroWars on Tuesday 26th April 13:08

Mark13

Original Poster:

411 posts

199 months

Tuesday 26th April 2011
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Burndown said:
NitroWars said:
In my opinion I thought it was a shame that the RFM cars only appeared to "make the numbers up" so as to take payment by guaranteeing a crowd without putting in representative passes... It was no surprise to see the top two places taken by independents (and by a large margin too)...
The top two places were taken by the combinations that have the most runs under their belts with their respective set ups. I was not at all surprised to see the new RFM combinations not being at the front. These cars are not easy to tune and the top end is where you do the damage.
Independents? Normally this would refer to small private teams competing against out and out professionals. The Erbacher team are as good as any in Europe and probably have a decent budget relative to others. It looked to me like the RFM cars were gradually winding up, with Risto having a brand new set up and the second car having a new one for the crew. Lawrie and Co certainly went through a lot of work with the Halinen car and it would not suprise me if both cars are very competitive come the end of May. IMO it looks good for the championship and we may even see Lex joining in.

Squating Neville

150 posts

177 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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NitroWars said:
Burndown said:
These cars are not easy to tune and the top end is where you do the damage.
Really? You're kidding me aren't you! rolleyes

ETA - Just to let you know that 2011 is my 36th season involved in Drag Racing...


Edited by NitroWars on Tuesday 26th April 13:08
Would you like a medal for that!!

NitroWars

667 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Squating Neville said:
Would you like a medal for that!!
Not at all, just pointing out that I am not somebody who has been involved in the sport for five minutes and think that they know everything.

BennettRacing

729 posts

232 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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wicked fish said:
what do you think this weekend is for the big cars.....a test session for the fia rounds with pay...
How very true.

Big well done to Dave Beck too, 7.06 @ 188mph

We went up on the Saturday and enjoyed it, not quite sure why every topic on here now turns into a barny but hay ho.

chris89

165 posts

191 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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BennettRacing said:
How very true.

Big well done to Dave Beck too, 7.06 @ 188mph

We went up on the Saturday and enjoyed it, not quite sure why every topic on here now turns into a barny but hay ho.
Well done to Dave on the record and everyone else who had PB's, Conrad dipping to the 6.8's in his pro stocker, John Bradshaw in his nissan 200mph! sorry for anyone else I missed, busy working hard to get the Timewarp car that I work on to a new pb of 6.73@215.87, just a thought, new class record smile

sadly you can type anything on here and someone has to jump on it and put you down.