Variable Speed Fines Announced!
Variable Speed Fines Announced!
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8Pack

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5,182 posts

263 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Latest News! The Government has announced new penalties for speeding. 2 points for min. to 6 points max. They must be getting scared! Slow! Election Ahead!

>>> Edited by 8Pack on Sunday 16th May 03:20

cortinaman

3,230 posts

276 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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hmmmmm.....labia's position is a bit like trying to give shergar his final meal today.......too fecking late to make any diffrence.

yes,one reason is because of the election but the main one i can see is that:- most people get caught a few mph over the limit right? so the ones who were getting 3 points for doing 35 or so will now only get 2,giving the scumbags in charge a maximum of 6 hits before your automaticly banned as opposed to 4......thats an extra £120 per motorist.....and this probably wont even be bought in,its just a load of spew just for you to vote for them again.....as public enemy said "DONT BELIEVE THE HYPE!"

this bunch of bastards wont do anything unless its benificial to them cashwise because they are the lowest form of pondscum.

eddited to add:- ive just seen the report on sky news,they are still going to ban you if you commit 4 offences in 3 years no matter wether you get 4 x 2points or 4 x 3 points anyway,so who the feck are they trying to kid by supposedly reducing the points given?

anyone falling for this bollocks as being better for motorists is dillusional.

(i loved the comment from the conservatives regarding billy liar being replaced by sweaty gordon,roughly he said "we would gladly talk about blair and brown's performance's and how they will loose the next election regardless of the change of leader)

>> Edited by cortinaman on Sunday 16th May 06:13

streaky

19,311 posts

272 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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cortinaman said:
eddited to add:- ive just seen the report on sky news,they are still going to ban you if you commit 4 offences in 3 years no matter wether you get 4 x 2points or 4 x 3 points anyway,so who the feck are they trying to kid by supposedly reducing the points given?

Cosmetics, not a face-lift!

Teppic

7,903 posts

280 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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streaky said:

cortinaman said:
eddited to add:- ive just seen the report on sky news,they are still going to ban you if you commit 4 offences in 3 years no matter wether you get 4 x 2points or 4 x 3 points anyway,so who the feck are they trying to kid by supposedly reducing the points given?


Cosmetics, not a face-lift!


Agreed. The Government have simply got the turd polishing kit out of the cupboard again.

loaf

850 posts

284 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Just read on the BBC website that Alastair Darling, the Fcukwit of State for Transport, said that 'the best camera is one that never issues a ticket as that means that everyone driving past it is driving safely and within the speed limit.'

(ahem) JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN THE LIMIT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE DRIVING SAFELY, OR NOT DRUNK, OR HAVE INSURANCE, OR HAVE A ROADWORTHY CAR, OR HAVEN'T JUST ROBBED A BANK/POSTOFFICE/OLD LADY, YOU TOSSER, AND WHEN ARE YOU AND YOUR LENTIL MUNCHING MATES GOING TO CROWBAR THIS INTO YOUR UNBELIEVABLY THICK CRANIA?

OI, DARWIN! YOU MISSED ONE!

I feel better now. Thank you for letting me share.

And, relax...

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

300 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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So its OK to pop a wheelie at 50mph past a 50mph, or wheelspin your Tuscan. You have permission from Mr Darling, and a valid defence against a dangerous driving charge - the Minister said it was safe!

Tw*t.

WildCat

8,369 posts

266 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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loaf said:
Just read on the BBC website that Alastair Darling, the Fcukwit of State for Transport, said that 'the best camera is one that never issues a ticket as that means that everyone driving past it is driving safely and within the speed limit.'




It would appear that he believes his own spin (which usually comes from nether regions! )

Agree with rest of your post - after all - we have all read stories about "driving at speed limit and too cautiously indicates "under the influence of something!" And as for camera improving "road safety" .... you already know what I have said umpteen times before now!

They are running scared as facing backlash over double whammy of huge fuel costs and practically criminal hike-up in insurance premiums for all - so up to us all to keep up high pressure!

Tafia

2,658 posts

271 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Cyncal me thinks this new scheme will lead to more points being issued.

Ceefax report said that "those driving slighty above the limit would only get 2 points"

But we are told that at present, those driving slighty above the limit don't get any points because they follow the ACPO guidelines of 10% of the limit + 2mph before prosecuing.

Rats

deltaf

6,806 posts

276 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Scuse me. I dont see ANY real difference here at all.
Wow, so they only give you 2 points instead of 3! How generous!
Bet they still want your 60 sovs tho, or better still, put the fines up!
Sorry Darling, i dont see anything to make me change my voting habits in that little spin exercise....You lose.

Dwight VanDriver

6,583 posts

267 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Speed policy dictated by HMG and ACPO.

President ACPO Traffic - Welsh Chief Constable?

He wants to reduce enforcement limits.

So in line with less points, drop the limit by "the plus 2" i.e. anything over ten percent gets actioned.

So more people getting the lesser points but cash keeps clinking in.

Cynical moi? Lets wait and see.

DVD

Demon Hill

368 posts

263 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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It's win win for the Government then

Tafia

2,658 posts

271 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Dwight VanDriver said:
Speed policy dictated by HMG and ACPO.

President ACPO Traffic - Welsh Chief Constable?

He wants to reduce enforcement limits.

So in line with less points, drop the limit by "the plus 2" i.e. anything over ten percent gets actioned.

So more people getting the lesser points but cash keeps clinking in.

Cynical moi? Lets wait and see.

DVD


Just as we thought. It has just been announced on ITV news that motorists doing a few miles an hour over the limit will now get two points as mentioned above. Drivers and some so-called motoring groups said this would be a fairer system. Are they totally bloody thick?

Right at the end of the item, the presenter said:

"Oh, by the way, there is another change being planned. Whereas the trigger speed for cameras in a 30 limit was 35 mph, it will now be reduced to 32mph"

Fascist bastards.

puggit

49,435 posts

271 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Tafia said:

Dwight VanDriver said:
Speed policy dictated by HMG and ACPO.

President ACPO Traffic - Welsh Chief Constable?

He wants to reduce enforcement limits.

So in line with less points, drop the limit by "the plus 2" i.e. anything over ten percent gets actioned.

So more people getting the lesser points but cash keeps clinking in.

Cynical moi? Lets wait and see.

DVD



Just as we thought. It has just been announced on ITV news that motorists doing a few miles an hour over the limit will now get two points as mentioned above. Drivers and some so-called motoring groups said this would be a fairer system. Are they totally bloody thick?

Right at the end of the item, the presenter said:

"Oh, by the way, there is another change being planned. Whereas the trigger speed for cameras in a 30 limit was 35 mph, it will now be reduced to 32mph"

Fascist bastards.
And it's Brunstromfuhrer who is making this change....

ledfoot

777 posts

275 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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I read on the BBC text this morning that all drivers only get 3 points at present regardless of the speed they were doing.

Is this true?

When did this come into force ?

The last time I got caught speeding I got 5 points about 5 years ago.

safetyfirst

169 posts

270 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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"Oh, by the way, there is another change being planned. Whereas the trigger speed for cameras in a 30 limit was 35 mph, it will now be reduced to 32mph"

so as speedometers are fairly innacurate does this mean we had better drive at say 20 MPH in a 30 limit just to be on the safe side then?

Just had an Idea! everyone drive everywhere at about 20 MPH below the posted limit,(just in case), result= GRIDLOCK!, then what would Fuhrer Brunstom do?

andygo

7,278 posts

278 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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I think he would think (if thats not too complimentary a word for what occurs in the void where we have brains) mission accomplished!

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

307 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Big difference in the points (as I see it) is they can now issue from 2-6 points from a camera without going to court. All FPNs have been 3 points up to now, and anything 'naughty' has required a court appearance, including police, etc. This is a cost cutting measure to get more high-point offenses through the system.

Combined with allowing 6 2-point offenses to maximise revenue before totting up.

The only beneficiaries are those who get one or two marginal tickets... otherwise, they're just out to screw you more.

deltaf

6,806 posts

276 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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Size Nine Elm said:
Big difference in the points (as I see it) is they can now issue from 2-6 points from a camera without going to court. All FPNs have been 3 points up to now, and anything 'naughty' has required a court appearance, including police, etc. This is a cost cutting measure to get more high-point offenses through the system.

Combined with allowing 6 2-point offenses to maximise revenue before totting up.

The only beneficiaries are those who get one or two marginal tickets... otherwise, they're just out to screw you more.


But youre still giving them £60 for their revenue fund.
Theyre hoping that less people will challenge the system as "its only 2 points" instead of 3, so the get more efficient at piss extraction.
How anything positive can be made out of this is well beyond me.
Theyre goddam theives and liars and scum, and nothing, but nothing will ever convince me otherwise.
I hope they all choke on their own vomit.

cortinaman

3,230 posts

276 months

Sunday 16th May 2004
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how much are plasma torches?

nickwilcock

1,523 posts

270 months

Monday 17th May 2004
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2 mph over a limit is an absurdly low error factor. Those roadside speed read-out things have told me that I was doing 28 mph in town when my speedometer read exactly 30; however, at exactly 30 indicated a 'too fast, 30 mph' warning came on at a different site...

I suspect that the 2 points will appear at a lower limit than the current 35 mph trigger (except that the one near me is, according to the council, set at 37 mph). How on earth can one rely upon any car speedometer to be sufficiently accurate to give true readings at exactly 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 or 70 mph? I fully support efforts to stop stupid little yobs racing eachother in built up areas, but persecution of motorists with speedometers unfit for the purpose of measuring speed accurately is wholly unreasonable.

Darling, and the rest of the wretched Labour party, must go at the next election!