goin to the gym within the hour first time in years
goin to the gym within the hour first time in years
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j4ckos mate

Original Poster:

3,429 posts

199 months

Wednesday 27th April 2011
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Anyone know cpr?


seriously,

i was thinking perhaps 20 mins crosstrainer, 20 rower, some light weights and 20 on the bike.


i am going away in four months and i know im not goin to shift upteen stone quickly, but what should i be doing, in order not to get ecowarriors pooring buckets of water over me on the sea shore.


any tips appreciated.


balders118

5,940 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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60 minutes of cardio will be plenty if not too much.

Simple tip, start off in your comfort zone otherwise you'll be stiff as a board the next day and not want to go back. After a week or so increase your intensity and reduce your duration slightly so you're working harder with interval or fartlek training but for a shorter period of time.

Make sure you cover the whole body with weights. No one likes big biceps on a skinny frame.

Cupramax

10,999 posts

281 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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60 mins to start off is way too long, start off with 20-30 mins light carbio (and I mean gentle) and some stretching afterwards. Build up gradually. You dont say how old you are...???

Lefty

21,083 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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I'm watching this with interest because I've got a gym induction thing tonight, first time i've been in a gym for years too!

Quick question, is it worth getting a personal trainer?

Odie

4,187 posts

211 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Lefty said:
I'm watching this with interest because I've got a gym induction thing tonight, first time i've been in a gym for years too!

Quick question, is it worth getting a personal trainer?
Its worth getting one to assess you and make you a training plan.

Id say 5-10 mins gentle on the x trainer, some weights, then a gentle 15 minutes (interval perhaps) run (1mile) or cycle (3-5miles)

CharlieHotel

9,080 posts

194 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Lefty said:
I'm watching this with interest because I've got a gym induction thing tonight, first time i've been in a gym for years too!

Quick question, is it worth getting a personal trainer?
I'd say it all depends on if you know what you are doing, if you motivate yourself well and can part with the money that they charge.

FraserLFA

5,083 posts

203 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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j4ckos mate said:
what should i be doing, in order not to get ecowarriors pooring buckets of water over me on the sea shore.
hehe That tickled me

Lefty

21,083 posts

231 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Odie said:
Its worth getting one to assess you and make you a training plan.

Id say 5-10 mins gentle on the x trainer, some weights, then a gentle 15 minutes (interval perhaps) run (1mile) or cycle (3-5miles)
Cheers smile

One more thing, is a foxy female a better personal trainer than an ironman bloke?

wink

mattikake

5,109 posts

228 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Depends how much other exercise you've been doing in the meantime.

If essentially sweet FA go easy. Only work to around 60% of you MHR (Max Heart Rate = 220 - your age) for about 20 minutes as you main session(s). Stretch fully first. Warm up for 5 mins at about 50% MHR on CV. Stretch down afterwards.

Over do it and you will regret it the next few days with major stiffness.

Many parts of you muscular system would've atrophied considerably during sedentry life, so don't expect to get back to anywhere near where you were and exercise appropriately.

j4ckos mate

Original Poster:

3,429 posts

199 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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iam 40.

we got a dog around nine months ago, so i walk that around 2 miles a day, and perhaps 4-5 at weekends.

i have a sit down desk job, with a small amount of loading vans at the end of each day,

i have seen so mayn people that are younger than me, or around my age, pop off, get diabetes, have heart attacks, so i have got to get a grip of myself before its too late.

last night i did, 3 x 10 minutes on the concept 2 rower at lever 10, 15 mins on the cross trainer on a low level, some weights on the machines, and a five minute treadmill walk, to cool down.

i am not aching at all today, and will go again tonight, and a good long dog walk in the morning, perhaps even as much as 10 miles.

i went walking round edale with some lads from work, and it left me absolutely knoackered and jelly legged, it really shocked me,

im going to watch what i eat and drink from now on, and must be at least 4-5 stone overweight, i know it doesnt go on over night so it wont come off, but together with walking the dog, and going there 3-4 nights per week, im hoping to shed 2-3 stone before we go away in the school hols.




LordGrover

34,148 posts

241 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Lefty said:
I'm watching this with interest because I've got a gym induction thing tonight, first time i've been in a gym for years too!

Quick question, is it worth getting a personal trainer?
Depends on the quality/experience of the PTs available.
IMO most of those at the gym I used were plain dangerous, taking nowhere near enough care of their clients' needs.

balders118

5,940 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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LordGrover said:
Lefty said:
I'm watching this with interest because I've got a gym induction thing tonight, first time i've been in a gym for years too!

Quick question, is it worth getting a personal trainer?
Depends on the quality/experience of the PTs available.
IMO most of those at the gym I used were plain dangerous, taking nowhere near enough care of their clients' needs.
I work in two gyms as an instructor/PT as well as freelance PT. LG is totally right, some of the people I have worked with are completely incompetent. The bigger gym I work at is used as a base for a local college's students who are studying to be gym instructors so a big group of them come around and use the gym. The guy that was supposed to be teaching them didn't have a clue and some of the kids on the course, well, to say they had no idea is an understatement (they had nearly qualaified at this point).

On the other hand there are some very good ones too, so keep your fingers crossed!

mattikake

5,109 posts

228 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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balders118 said:
LordGrover said:
Lefty said:
I'm watching this with interest because I've got a gym induction thing tonight, first time i've been in a gym for years too!

Quick question, is it worth getting a personal trainer?
Depends on the quality/experience of the PTs available.
IMO most of those at the gym I used were plain dangerous, taking nowhere near enough care of their clients' needs.
I work in two gyms as an instructor/PT as well as freelance PT. LG is totally right, some of the people I have worked with are completely incompetent. The bigger gym I work at is used as a base for a local college's students who are studying to be gym instructors so a big group of them come around and use the gym. The guy that was supposed to be teaching them didn't have a clue and some of the kids on the course, well, to say they had no idea is an understatement (they had nearly qualaified at this point).

On the other hand there are some very good ones too, so keep your fingers crossed!
Yep, just like all walks of life, just because someone has a qualification doesn't are any good at it... and indeed, if the qualification is actually any good!

E.g. Always always ask your PT/GI what qualifications they have, where they got them and most of all, how long it took to get them. If they say it was Premier and it was a 4 week crash course, leave! However, if they did a 2 year academic CYQ YMCA course (like me wink ) sign them up.

50% of PT's and 90% of GI's are total retards IME. Which I like, because it's easy to ground them into the dirt, humiliate them and nick their clients. But you have to have a real nasty competitive streak to do this... ahem... wink

edit: oh and there are also a sh!tload of cowboys who aren't even insured, even when working for a gym! This will all be exposed on the news one day = more cash for me. smile

Edited by mattikake on Thursday 28th April 13:43

ChairsWithHairs

24,132 posts

223 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Regarding a personal trainer, I now have one after a couple of years of inactivity and confusion when faced with loads of gym equipment. Some people I know can go for 3 sessions a week, and seem to know what to do but to date I have not been one of these. After working long hours, I've also found it demoralising to return to running and be unable to run the distances I once could.

I would echo the above and say the quality of trainers vary. Mine was recommended to me by a couple of friends when I outlined the issues above, not because I wanted to hire a trainer. I'm enjoying learning how to exercise properly, the commitment, and getting fitter. I will reduce down to a couple of sessions a month in a few months time.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

281 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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At 5 stone overweight the OP is going to see the majority of any improvement through diet - in fact, he needs to be careful all this flopping about in the gym doesnt make him hungry...he may get fatter!

Seriously, the exercise is good for general health and (one day) so you can see some muscle when the fat is gone.....but for the next couple of years focus on diet as the priority.

If you need convincing....find any online calculator and see what you burn in the gym, then look at the calories in that chocky bar you are wolfing down - you'll soon realise you will drop far more weight by skipping a treat than you will by pounding the treadmill.

balders118

5,940 posts

197 months

Thursday 28th April 2011
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Tiggsy said:
At 5 stone overweight the OP is going to see the majority of any improvement through diet - in fact, he needs to be careful all this flopping about in the gym doesnt make him hungry...he may get fatter!

Seriously, the exercise is good for general health and (one day) so you can see some muscle when the fat is gone.....but for the next couple of years focus on diet as the priority.

If you need convincing....find any online calculator and see what you burn in the gym, then look at the calories in that chocky bar you are wolfing down - you'll soon realise you will drop far more weight by skipping a treat than you will by pounding the treadmill.
Yes but both combined is far more effective, particularly at keeping weight off during a lapse in focus or will power.

j4ckos mate

Original Poster:

3,429 posts

199 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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i Did 25 mins walking brisk up incline, (whilst watchin the match on the in built tely),
25 mins on the fat burning crosstrainer, 15 mins on the rower, some more light weights.


going to take the dog (stalot) for a nice wal now before watching the wedding i reckon that will be six miles.


eating wise a day very roughly consists of

all bran cereal, a brew, home made sandwich at work, chicken, cheshire cheese or whatever is about, a piece of freuit in the afternoon.

And for tea, last night i had some chicken and rocket salad, with a bun.


j4ckos mate

Original Poster:

3,429 posts

199 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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6 miles with the dog this am.

i was absolutely shattered when i got back,

just had a tuna and sweetcorn sandwich,
i see what you mean about being more hungry.

Tiggsy

10,261 posts

281 months

Friday 29th April 2011
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100 cal per mile is a rule of thumb.....hope you didnt add mayo to that carb heavy snack wink

j4ckos mate

Original Poster:

3,429 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th April 2011
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dont like mayo, or salad cream just makes your the taste of the food go and all you can taste is mayo,

lost a couple of kilos according to the scales this morning,
not going to go today though, will go sunday morning i think, and again monday,

i reckon i will improve a little with the rowing, crosstrainer etc, then get the bloke to do me a course,

wouldnt mind doing some fat burning stuff, and then try and build my shoulders and biceps up a little