GoPro vids from first trip to Cwmcarn (crash content)

[hughjayteens]

Tried out the new GoPro 960 last weekend and as was always going to happen, had a big off while a friend was filming me!
Think I need to play around with the angle a little but pretty pleased for a first attempt. The strap was quite loose on the freeride section vid and is noticeably less wobbly when tightened up after that.
Would welcome input on the crash - usually know what has happened but on that one I just remember seeing the wheels facing the sky and that was it - almost looks as if the rear suspension bottomed out and catapulted me off but unsure exactly what we wrong?

http://youtu.be/FuAzPmEAsHs?hd=1

http://youtu.be/eepDuHSeoz0?hd=1

http://youtu.be/eepDuHSeoz0?hd=1

[FellowPazzini]

Brilliant videos mate. I'm more of an occasional canal rider with the kids ha ha but would love to do that kind of thing. Would this bike be able to handle something as scary as that?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

[MrTom]

hughjayteens said:

Tried out the new GoPro 960 last weekend and as was always going to happen, had a big off while a friend was filming me!
Think I need to play around with the angle a little but pretty pleased for a first attempt. The strap was quite loose on the freeride section vid and is noticeably less wobbly when tightened up after that.
Would welcome input on the crash - usually know what has happened but on that one I just remember seeing the wheels facing the sky and that was it - almost looks as if the rear suspension bottomed out and catapulted me off but unsure exactly what we wrong?

http://youtu.be/FuAzPmEAsHs?hd=1

http://youtu.be/eepDuHSeoz0?hd=1

http://youtu.be/eepDuHSeoz0?hd=1

Is youtube compression killing the video quality in 720p, it should look better? We filmed some stuff on a Gopro (on the end of a stick for closeups) and 60d and it looked quite good on youtube. Mpora could give you better results.

With regard to the crash, it looked like a concrete slab was what caused you to crash, maybe get some flats and less lycra .

Edited by MrTom on Friday 29th April 23:08

[escort90]

FellowPazzini said:

Brilliant videos mate. I'm more of an occasional canal rider with the kids ha ha but would love to do that kind of thing. Would this bike be able to handle something as scary as that?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

you could ride that track on that if you took your time and are smooth. I rode my hardtailed jump bike down most of the downhill runs in morzine/les gets in the alps and was fine there.

Edited by escort90 on Saturday 30th April 16:30

[FellowPazzini]

escort90 said:

FellowPazzini said:

Brilliant videos mate. I'm more of an occasional canal rider with the kids ha ha but would love to do that kind of thing. Would this bike be able to handle something as scary as that?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

you could ride that track on that if you too your time and are smooth. I rode my hardtailed jump bike down most of the downhill runs in morzine/les gets in the alps and was fine there.

Excellent, thanks

[militantmandy]

Great vids, great riding and what appears to be a great trail! Will have to leave the awesomeness of Scottish riding and experience some of this Welsh business!

[hughjayteens]

MrTom said:

Is youtube compression killing the video quality in 720p, it should look better? We filmed some stuff on a Gopro (on the end of a stick for closeups) and 60d and it looked quite good on youtube. Mpora could give you better results.

With regard to the crash, it looked like a concrete slab was what caused you to crash, maybe get some flats and less lycra .

Edited by MrTom on Friday 29th April 23:08

To be honest, it's my first attempt at video editing and I just used iMovie in its default settings including the 'publish to youtube' feature, so quite likely it is compressing the files.

Your vids make mine look rather half baked I have to say, as does some of that riding! Are you in the vid or filming? We did 50km of XC that day so to compromise that for 3 minutes of downhill wouldn't make much sense, but I'm certainly gonna try some new clothing (and armour) and possible flats in the alps this summer!

[nessiemac]

hughjayteens said:

MrTom said:

Is youtube compression killing the video quality in 720p, it should look better? We filmed some stuff on a Gopro (on the end of a stick for closeups) and 60d and it looked quite good on youtube. Mpora could give you better results.

With regard to the crash, it looked like a concrete slab was what caused you to crash, maybe get some flats and less lycra .

Edited by MrTom on Friday 29th April 23:08

To be honest, it's my first attempt at video editing and I just used iMovie in its default settings including the 'publish to youtube' feature, so quite likely it is compressing the files.

Your vids make mine look rather half baked I have to say, as does some of that riding! Are you in the vid or filming? We did 50km of XC that day so to compromise that for 3 minutes of downhill wouldn't make much sense, but I'm certainly gonna try some new clothing (and armour) and possible flats in the alps this summer!

I have the same problem. I have a Go pro and a Canon 550D and when i stick the Raw footage onto the Mac and watch it through the Aperture program the Quality is stunning. Just like being there and it couldn't be better at all.

But as as soon as it is put into Imovie it loses quality and then once edited and put onto Youtube as above then it loses another chunk of quality and it is really annoying as i can see from Mr Tom's footage above you can get superb quality on Youtube with the same equipment.

So Mr Tom what do you use to edit and publish the footage taken on the GoPro and Canon 60D?

[asnail99]

imovie is pretty basic.

try a propper tool like sony vegas pro 7 upwards, i think its up to version 10 now.

[Trevelyan]

What are places like Cwmcarn like for newbies? I'm getting a bit bored of my local area now and would like to try out a few new places. The problem is that I've only had a bike for about six months (after a 15 year break!) so I'm not experienced by any means, and I suspect that my bike would be considered fairly crap by most other riders (Pinnacle Evo - all I could afford at the time).

If I was to head somewhere like Cwncarn would I get on ok or would I just find myself getting in the way of more experienced/faster/better equipped riders and pissing them off?

Edited by Trevelyan on Saturday 30th April 21:18

[Flippin' Kipper]

Trevelyan said:

What are places like Cwmcarn like for newbies? I'm getting a bit bored of my local area now and would like to try out a few new places. The problem is that I've only had a bike for about six months (after a 15 year break!) so I'm not experienced by any means, and I suspect that my bike would be considered fairly crap by most other riders (Pinnacle Evo - all I could afford at the time.

If I was to head somewhere like Cwncarn would I get on ok or would I just find myself getting in the way of more experienced/faster/better equipped riders and pissing them off?

You will be fine, just go at your own pace and pull over to let faster riders through - although maybe avoid weekends for your first trip.

[hughjayteens]

I'd say Cwcarn is pretty technical - the XC loop has a fairly long (30mins ish) climb which is pretty technical in places and then some nice downhill sections.

Afan might be a gentler start - longer routes but less technical from memory and where I got the bug again after a 10 year break from MTBing.

[hughjayteens]

Here's a short GoPro clip uploaded directly from the memory card - certainly is much crisper than feeding it through iMovie.

http://youtu.be/6d7sMbl9KCU?hd=1

[Parrot of Doom]

The second video - is that your heartbeat I can hear?

[E21_Ross]

hughjayteens said:

Afan might be a gentler start

not if you start at the glyncorrwg centre for either the W2 or whites level (same start of course), it's 6km of technical up hill. not toooooo bad but my mate who isn't as fit as me was cursing it near the end i much prefer afan, i feel for the travelling, you may as well go that bit further and enjoy a long ride out (W2 is my fave at afan, naturally) whereas i don't like doing the same thing over and over, and the XC ride at cwmcarn is really not very long IMO. some of the technical down at afan is sublime too i reckon.

oh, for that carrera hard tail at somewhere like cwmcarn....it'll do it, but not for long. i had an old carrera kraken which was about £300 6 or so years ago and after some mountain biking at coed y brenin and scotland, it started to slowly break. headset started letting go (constantly needed tightening), suspension started to fail (leaking fluid!!!), brakes were overheating in places (maybe i was a bit over enthusiastic!) and it just didn't feel too healthy for it. but yes, it could certainly do it, just don't go balls out all the time on it. it's a "200-odd quid bike, it's not really got the bits to suit those sorta places in my opinion.

[hughjayteens]

Parrot of Doom said:

The second video - is that your heartbeat I can hear?

No, my sphincter!!

I think it was just the chest mount done up too loosely, have heard similar on other gopro vids.

[MrTom]

nessiemac said:

I have the same problem. I have a Go pro and a Canon 550D and when i stick the Raw footage onto the Mac and watch it through the Aperture program the Quality is stunning. Just like being there and it couldn't be better at all.

But as as soon as it is put into Imovie it loses quality and then once edited and put onto Youtube as above then it loses another chunk of quality and it is really annoying as i can see from Mr Tom's footage above you can get superb quality on Youtube with the same equipment.

So Mr Tom what do you use to edit and publish the footage taken on the GoPro and Canon 60D?

I used Adobe CS5 production premium for production and encoding. I'm on my laptop so don't have exact setting to hand, something like:

• Make sure both video sources are same res e.g. 1080p or 720p

After production add the project to render queue
Video format: Quicktime
Preset: youtubeHD (you configure this, select an HD setting that has the same res as the source video e.g. 1080p)
Codec:H.264
Quailty:Maximum
Res:1920x1080
Framerate:29.97
Bitrate: 4000kbps

• square pixels

Uploading takes an age, so play with bitrate until it's a manageable size.

[nessiemac]

MrTom said:

I used Adobe CS5 production premium for production and encoding. I'm on my laptop so don't have exact setting to hand, something like:

• Make sure both video sources are same res e.g. 1080p or 720p

After production add the project to render queue
Video format: Quicktime
Preset: youtubeHD (you configure this, select an HD setting that has the same res as the source video e.g. 1080p)
Codec:H.264
Quailty:Maximum
Res:1920x1080
Framerate:29.97
Bitrate: 4000kbps

• square pixels

Uploading takes an age, so play with bitrate until it's a manageable size.

Cheers Tom,much appreciated