850 Manual
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nightflight

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814 posts

248 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Has anyone had any experience of the 1990's 850 5.6 manual. I've seen one advertised, but I've only ever considered buying an auto. Is it a good box etc? Any advice appreciated.

Spudler

3,985 posts

227 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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No brainer, the manual is a great box.

E21_Ross

36,729 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Spudler said:
No brainer, the manual is a great box.
this. they are also pretty bloody rare.

Jw Vw

4,925 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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E21_Ross said:
Spudler said:
No brainer, the manual is a great box.
this. they are also pretty bloody rare.
I've never seen an 850 with a manual box that's for sure!

E31Shrew

5,965 posts

223 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Take it you mean a Csi? Plenty of info on clube31.net

E21_Ross

36,729 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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E31Shrew said:
Take it you mean a Csi? Plenty of info on clube31.net
gotta be, afaik they never did an 850i or 850Ci with a manual box. 850CSi's are fantastic cars. have been lucky enough to go in one! albeit for about 10mins hehe

Spudler

3,985 posts

227 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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About 70 odd 850i with the manual box were made.

E21_Ross

36,729 posts

243 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Spudler said:
About 70 odd 850i with the manual box were made.
learn something every day! not sure if i'd take a normal 850 with a manual box, but i'd take the CSi with one.

E31Shrew

5,965 posts

223 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Spudler said:
About 70 odd 850i with the manual box were made.
Not 5.6 ltr though!

Seeker UK

1,443 posts

189 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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nightflight said:
Has anyone had any experience of the 1990's 850 5.6 manual. I've seen one advertised, but I've only ever considered buying an auto. Is it a good box etc? Any advice appreciated.
That's an 850csi (not quite the M8 but close). Goes like stink and if looked after, will be a future classic.

nightflight

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814 posts

248 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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Thanks chaps, I can feel a viewing coming on.

Chester Drawers

402 posts

229 months

Friday 6th May 2011
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Spudler said:
About 70 odd 850i with the manual box were made.
Here's the production data for all 8 series cars which unfortunately doesn't show numbers built with manual or auto transmission - this info is available but on a closed community basis only from 8coupe.com (you need an 8 series to register).

5.6 litre would be a Csi which were all manual 6 speed gearboxes. Manuals were also available on the 5.0 litre, the 4.0 litre and the 4.4 litre although this last one is very rare in RHD form. For the M73 5.4 litre powered 8 series only the steptronic box was available although there are one or possibly two that have been converted to manuals by their owners.
Here's the build info (source= e31.net)

http://e31.net/models.html

PS, I assume you're referring to this car: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1992-BMW-850-BLACK-MANUAL-/2...

If you're seriously thinking of buying one you need to check out the buyers guides you can find on the club forums, try 8er.org or bimmerforums and look at the 8 series section. also look at wuffer.net - the owner there has some very good buying guides. Bear in mind the 8 series is a complicated machine and some parts are expensive, some are getting hard to find now, BMW moved the 8 series to the "Classic" section just a week ago and that means some parts will be more expensive and some will not continue to be manufactured. Despite its complexity the 8 series can be an extremely reliable machine, I've had mine (1997 M73) for 4 years now and it's never once let me down - preventative maintenance is the key, it eats front suspension bushes and tyres don't last long but the rewards of owning and driving such a beautiful machine are well worth the expense.

Edited by Chester Drawers on Friday 6th May 21:11

E31Shrew

5,965 posts

223 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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Apparently the next series of Top Gear will feature an 8! Knowing TG I expect values to plummet! Damn

TheEnd

15,370 posts

219 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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I'm sure I saw data to suggest there were about 500 850is in the UK, and about 50 were manuals, so about 10% of the population, but they tend to be keepers and don't turn up for sale as much.

E21_Ross

36,729 posts

243 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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E31Shrew said:
Apparently the next series of Top Gear will feature an 8! Knowing TG I expect values to plummet! Damn
i remember him saying the 850csi was the car the 850 should have been, and he didn't really think much of the 850. not sure about the 840, as that seems good at what it's pitched for...a long distance GT car! not much less powerful than the 850 but much more frugal.

8Tech

2,212 posts

229 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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The 850 manual is a very nice car, both rare and a joy to drive but whilst the gearbox is very robust, the clutch and flywheel are not and allowing the clutch to wear beyond 3/4 worn will inevitably result in a flywheel replacement required when you do the clutch.

Flywheels cannot be refaced either. You can consider an alloy flywheel with a replaceable facing if you drive the car hard and a performance clutch is essential for all but the most sedate drivers. It was designed as a cruiser, not a sports car so driving it hard will require some upgrades.

8Tech.