700 kilos/600 bhp !
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J4CKO

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46,836 posts

229 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Saw this on Ebay, would this be in anyway drivable ? been in a 200 plus bhp Westfield as a passenger and that was seriously rapid, am I right in thinking a mega powered turbo engine with loads of torque would be a recipe for terror/facing the way you came in something so light ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/dax-rush-cosworth-spares-rep...

Uhura fighter

7,018 posts

212 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Not sure you could get the power down.

Do some Cobra reps have similar power/weight?

AndyBrew

2,774 posts

248 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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I would suggest poking a lion in the eye would be a safer bet!

EvoBarry

1,903 posts

294 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Was lucky enough to drive a 300hp Cossie Rush a few years back, even that was useless in the corners, this one must be pointless in a straight line too biggrin

soad

34,654 posts

205 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Drive it off boost?

Sounds like a monster performance car, should prove interesting to pilot hehe

The Moose

23,677 posts

238 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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I certainly wouldn't mind having a bit of that - shame I can't afford a £10k toy at the moment!

Cheers

The Moose

wackojacko

8,581 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Porkie has similar BHP/Ton (just under I think) in his Westy ...... that is sensational !

DAVEVO9

3,469 posts

296 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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J4CKO said:
Saw this on Ebay, would this be in anyway drivable ? been in a 200 plus bhp Westfield as a passenger and that was seriously rapid, am I right in thinking a mega powered turbo engine with loads of torque would be a recipe for terror/facing the way you came in something so light ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/dax-rush-cosworth-spares-rep...
I wouldn't want to drive than on those tyres!

I built a Dax Rush.. The lightweight bike engined chassis.. 185hp Hayabusa powered and it was 480kg with a full tank of fuel.

Even with R888's it was lethal until you got heat into the tyres! Very quick once the tyres had warmed up though.


cptsideways

13,884 posts

281 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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It wont be making 450bhp on those injectors wink even still looks like a fun project

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

207 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Uhura fighter said:
Not sure you could get the power down.

Do some Cobra reps have similar power/weight?
With the sort of power to weight here you could just do a gentle start to get rolling and then floor it evil

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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600bhp, but comes with a boggo std T3 turbo???

PisstnBroke

1,095 posts

253 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Personally I think putting a turbo in a car that light is just ridiculous, money is better off spent with 250bhp a naturally aspirated engine.
I really dont understand it, why the horrible rear wing, the horrible paint job, bottle of Nos?

Infact I wouldnt even get in the car, dont know about the workman ship but sounds like someone has more money then sense.



Edited by PisstnBroke on Sunday 1st May 23:22

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Max_Torque said:
600bhp, but comes with a boggo std T3 turbo???
600 is with nitrous.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

284 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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PisstnBroke said:
Personally I think putting a turbo in a car that light is just ridiculous, money is better off spent with 250bhp a naturally aspirated engine.
I really dont understand it, why the horrible rear wing, the horrible paint job, bottle of Nos?
I totally agree; completely unsuitable engine for this car and missing the point by a country mile.

700kg is extremely lardy for a seven inspired car anyway - not surprising as the YB engine weighs a ridiculous amount itself.

Mastodon2

14,324 posts

194 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Mr2Mike said:
I totally agree; completely unsuitable engine for this car and missing the point by a country mile.

700kg is extremely lardy for a seven inspired car anyway - not surprising as the YB engine weighs a ridiculous amount itself.
Don't you think perhaps the point of this project was to build a car with monster acceleration first and handling somewhere about 15th? The engine is what this car is about, the fact it's in a 7 style body is likely only because they are light and cheap.

J4CKO

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46,836 posts

229 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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Mastodon2 said:
Don't you think perhaps the point of this project was to build a car with monster acceleration first and handling somewhere about 15th? The engine is what this car is about, the fact it's in a 7 style body is likely only because they are light and cheap.
Yes, I understand that, but in reality you wouldn't be able to put it down, I would imagine a 600 bhp one wouldnt be any quicker than a 300 bhp one (possibly slower due to modulating the throttle to avoid death and changing pants), just would involve more smoke and involvement with the scenery, even big, heavy cars with that kind of power are a massive handful without any electronic intervention, I would imagine you could only use about a quarter throttle before the rear starts getting frisky, don't get me wrong, I love the idea, not sure about the practice though !

Edited by J4CKO on Sunday 1st May 23:45

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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DR10 said:
Max_Torque said:
600bhp, but comes with a boggo std T3 turbo???
600 is with nitrous.
you still have to get 600bhp worth of exhaust gas through a T3 tubine.........

Nickccc

1,682 posts

277 months

Sunday 1st May 2011
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There's a seven withe an AJP 4.2 at Austec that must be pretty crazy.

Mastodon2

14,324 posts

194 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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J4CKO said:
Yes, I understand that, but in reality you wouldn't be able to put it down, I would imagine a 600 bhp one wouldnt be any quicker than a 300 bhp one (possibly slower due to modulating the throttle to avoid death and changing pants), just would involve more smoke and involvement with the scenery, even big, heavy cars with that kind of power are a massive handful without any electronic intervention, I would imagine you could only use about a quarter throttle before the rear starts getting frisky, don't get me wrong, I love the idea, not sure about the practice though !

Edited by J4CKO on Sunday 1st May 23:45
Totally agreed there - I doubt there is enough weight in the car to get anything but mental wheelspin unless you were running some sticky-compounded slicks, which is obviously not ideal (or even legal) for the road. That said, there will always be people chasing dreams - be it in development facilities worth millions or in their sheds. This is definitely the latter. Massive bragging rights, but in practice I think even something with a third of the power and twice the weight (Clio 182?) could see it off on a real road. Coming onto a long straight, coming on boost from a flying start the rocket-car might find the grip it needs and would go absolutely bolting past, but that kind of power would see anyone less than suicidal being very careful through the corners indeed, where any balanced car would see it right off.

poing

8,743 posts

229 months

Monday 2nd May 2011
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The Moose said:
I certainly wouldn't mind having a bit of that - shame I can't afford a £10k toy at the moment!

Cheers

The Moose
What he said!

Although if you are planning on suicide then there are worse ways to go!

I have no self restraint so this would be a bad career move!