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Alfa numeric

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3,169 posts

208 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Two situations that happened to me recently:

• Two lanes at a set of traffic lights merge into one lane a short distance past the junction. In the right hand lane is a Boxster and an E36 M3, in the left an ancient Ka with a Hello Kitty cushion and “Princess on Board” sticker in the back window. Which lane do you choose?
• Further down the road it narrows considerably. You’re in a queue of traffic doing about a mile an hour when you look in your mirror and see a cyclist approaching on the nearside and a motorbike driving up the middle of the road. Due to the weight of traffic around you, you only have room to let one past. Which way do you go?

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

238 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Hello Kitty lane - I'm commuting. If I get there a minute later "traffic was terrible".
Neither. If they can get past fine, if not it's not my problem.

Aberdeenloon

2,672 posts

186 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Alfa numeric said:
Two situations that happened to me recently:

• Two lanes at a set of traffic lights merge into one lane a short distance past the junction. In the right hand lane is a Boxster and an E36 M3, in the left an ancient Ka with a Hello Kitty cushion and “Princess on Board” sticker in the back window. Which lane do you choose?
• Further down the road it narrows considerably. You’re in a queue of traffic doing about a mile an hour when you look in your mirror and see a cyclist approaching on the nearside and a motorbike driving up the middle of the road. Due to the weight of traffic around you, you only have room to let one past. Which way do you go?
1. Depends how hot the MILF is driving the Ka.
2. fk it, take them both out.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Alfa numeric said:
Two situations that happened to me recently:

• Two lanes at a set of traffic lights merge into one lane a short distance past the junction. In the right hand lane is a Boxster and an E36 M3, in the left an ancient Ka with a Hello Kitty cushion and “Princess on Board” sticker in the back window. Which lane do you choose?
• Further down the road it narrows considerably. You’re in a queue of traffic doing about a mile an hour when you look in your mirror and see a cyclist approaching on the nearside and a motorbike driving up the middle of the road. Due to the weight of traffic around you, you only have room to let one past. Which way do you go?
Shouldn't the push bike also be filtering in the middle? (i.e. between the lanes, rather than next to the kerb?)

JonnyFive

29,897 posts

218 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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I do enjoy this game, choosing which lane is going to be the quickest?

Van, or rep mobil.. Which do you choose..

Alfa numeric

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3,169 posts

208 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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mrmr96 said:
Shouldn't the push bike also be filtering in the middle? (i.e. between the lanes, rather than next to the kerb?)
You'd think so wouldn't you! Maybe he moved over to avoid the motorbike.

Disco You

3,748 posts

209 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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WRT the bike and the motorbike I would remain in the position that I am, they have no right of way and the cyclist shouldn't filter on the inside.

PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

194 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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2 cans of Red Bull required then.......whistle

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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I would choose the lane with the M3 and Boxster on the assumption that they will get away quicker and I wouldn't want to be stuck behind a Princess on Board badge as they boil my piss

WRT the cyclist and motorbike I would allow the motorbike past, push bikes can get through much narrower gaps and the biker is filtering correctly, the cyclist isnt

hullbilly

383 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Disco You said:
they have no right of way and the cyclist shouldn't filter on the inside.
Thats why they put cycle lanes on INSIDE of the road isnt it.



Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Alfa numeric said:
Two situations that happened to me recently:

• Two lanes at a set of traffic lights merge into one lane a short distance past the junction. In the right hand lane is a Boxster and an E36 M3, in the left an ancient Ka with a Hello Kitty cushion and “Princess on Board” sticker in the back window. Which lane do you choose?
I'm not really one for weaving in and out of lanes, so I'd probably go for the inside, particularly if there's another car ahead of me that might not be pulling away that quickly.

Alfa numeric said:
• Further down the road it narrows considerably. You’re in a queue of traffic doing about a mile an hour when you look in your mirror and see a cyclist approaching on the nearside and a motorbike driving up the middle of the road. Due to the weight of traffic around you, you only have room to let one past. Which way do you go?
If they were completely evenly positioned I'd probably stay where I am and let them figure it out themselves. That's not a nasty comment - I cycle regularly and I've ridden motorcycles in the past - it's just that some times the best thing is not to interfere with the plans the rider has already made for going past you. On a bike you never anticipate people moving out the way to help - it's nice if they do, but you never bet on it - so you always have your own plan (even if it's just sit there until there's enough space to do something else).

If I had to pick one for the sake of the game I'd go for the motorcyclist. They tend to be broader and less manoeuvrable, so it'd be easier for the cyclist to cross over and follow them than vice-versa.

obscene

5,180 posts

214 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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hullbilly said:
Thats why they put cycle lanes on INSIDE of the road isnt it.
To be fair, they have their own LANE. It'd be redundant having your own lane in the middle of the road.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

233 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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hullbilly said:
Disco You said:
they have no right of way and the cyclist shouldn't filter on the inside.
Thats why they put cycle lanes on INSIDE of the road isnt it.
Using a cycle lane and filtering on the nearside are different things.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

192 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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I'd let the cyclist past and stop the motorbike. Cyclist isnt insured if he hits me, motorbike is.

And on number 1, would probably depend on my mood.

Sonofabeesting

599 posts

212 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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StottyZr said:
I'd let the cyclist past and stop the motorbike. Cyclist isnt insured if he hits me, motorbike is.

And on number 1, would probably depend on my mood.
I hope you dont mean that if there is an accident it is automatically the bikers fault for filtering.

AlexKing

613 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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1 - Hello Kitty lane for me - I've found that the type of car is no indicator as to how dozy someone is about pulling away from the lights. Also, there's a good chance she's about to turn left without indicating, giving you a free road ahead1

2- The most likely thing is that I'm on the motorbike, but if I'm in the car I stay where I am - speaking as a motorbike commuter, what I hate most is surprises and dozy people wandering about in their lane. If there's not space for both then one or both can wait until there is room. The motorcyclist is happy anyway, because he's glad he's not stuck in stationary traffic and will get to wherever he's going long before you!

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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Alfa numeric said:
• Two lanes at a set of traffic lights merge into one lane a short distance past the junction. In the right hand lane is a Boxster and an E36 M3, in the left an ancient Ka with a Hello Kitty cushion and “Princess on Board” sticker in the back window. Which lane do you choose?
Take the left (Ka) lane. Unless the Ka driver boots it past the two cockmobilesGerman cars in the right lane, you will end up in the same place after the merge in turn.
Alfa numeric said:
• Further down the road it narrows considerably. You’re in a queue of traffic doing about a mile an hour when you look in your mirror and see a cyclist approaching on the nearside and a motorbike driving up the middle of the road. Due to the weight of traffic around you, you only have room to let one past. Which way do you go?
My generosity would go to the (motor)Biker every time. Cyclists can fk right off.

AlexKing

613 posts

187 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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StottyZr said:
I'd let the cyclist past and stop the motorbike. Cyclist isnt insured if he hits me, motorbike is.

And on number 1, would probably depend on my mood.
Right, so you'd deliberately and unexpectedly swerve into the path of another vehicle performing a legal act. Bloody hell. rolleyes

zax

1,071 posts

292 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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1: Choose the lane I'm not in. Mine is always slowest for some reason.
2: Depends which one gets to me first. If it's a tie, stay central and let them sort it out.

hullbilly

383 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th May 2011
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mrmr96 said:
hullbilly said:
Disco You said:
they have no right of way and the cyclist shouldn't filter on the inside.
Thats why they put cycle lanes on INSIDE of the road isnt it.
Using a cycle lane and filtering on the nearside are different things.
Why? you're doing exactly the same thing.

If a cyclist filtered down the middle and then the traffic sped up the cyclist would be stuck in the middle of the road with no way of getting back to the inside without a car letting them in.